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Old 05-29-2007, 09:52 AM
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The Machine has only one function--to execute the program.

Bending the Left Wrist is part of the vertical hinging.

Direction Control means Clubface and/or stance alignment control .

..basically, the inertia of the club is Clubface Control,…..
Just a few corrections.
The left wrist never bends. Its motion is to cock and uncock only. Vertical Hinging does not include a bent left wrist.

Direction control means clubface alignment control per the left wrist. 1-L-C. The clubface controls the direction and can either be open, square, or closed to the plane line. Through impact the clubface can close, hood, or layback. Hooding is not an effective alternative which leaves closing and layback.

Singular or combinations of those two motions correspond to the three hinge actions; That is "Closing" without "Lay-back." (Horizontal Hinge) (10-10-D) "Lay-back" without "Closing" (Vertical Hinge) (10-10-E) and simultaneous "Closing" and "Lay-back" (Angled Hinge) (10-10-C).

Stance is just one of many elements that assist in direction, but is not at all mandatory.

Based on the context of your response, using inertia ALONE for clubface control is a Pivot Controlled Hands procedure. It's not something we recommend here primarily because Homer said it was an inferior procedure.

Please clarify for me if I'm mistaken about what you teach.
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Old 05-30-2007, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance View Post
Just a few corrections.
The left wrist never bends. Its motion is to cock and uncock only. Vertical Hinging does not include a bent left wrist.

Direction control means clubface alignment control per the left wrist. 1-L-C. The clubface controls the direction and can either be open, square, or closed to the plane line. Through impact the clubface can close, hood, or layback. Hooding is not an effective alternative which leaves closing and layback.

Singular or combinations of those two motions correspond to the three hinge actions; That is "Closing" without "Lay-back." (Horizontal Hinge) (10-10-D) "Lay-back" without "Closing" (Vertical Hinge) (10-10-E) and simultaneous "Closing" and "Lay-back" (Angled Hinge) (10-10-C).

Stance is just one of many elements that assist in direction, but is not at all mandatory.

Based on the context of your response, using inertia ALONE for clubface control is a Pivot Controlled Hands procedure. It's not something we recommend here primarily because Homer said it was an inferior procedure.

Please clarify for me if I'm mistaken about what you teach.
Sorry, that's not what I use and teach. And, again, mine is "LAG-controlled-pivot".

Things can get out of control, if wrong things get controlled.
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Bending the Left Wrist can be a procedure though if you use it intentionally . . . and it can be DEADLY.
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Bending the Left Wrist can be a procedure though if you use it intentionally . . . and it can be DEADLY.
You are right and I stand corrected.

How about the next time we hook up, you can stand 6 feet in front of me and I'll hit a soft lobber from a tight lie over your head with a flat left wrist?

The one I have trouble with is Seve's famous "flip the clubface" under the ball and catch it. As much as I hate the thought of flipping, I'll try that one too if you'll stand in front of me.
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You are right and I stand corrected.

How about the next time we hook up, you can stand 6 feet in front of me and I'll hit a soft lobber from a tight lie over your head with a flat left wrist?

The one I have trouble with is Seve's famous "flip the clubface" under the ball and catch it. As much as I hate the thought of flipping, I'll try that one too if you'll stand in front of me.
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You are right and I stand corrected.

How about the next time we hook up, you can stand 6 feet in front of me and I'll hit a soft lobber from a tight lie over your head with a flat left wrist?

The one I have trouble with is Seve's famous "flip the clubface" under the ball and catch it. As much as I hate the thought of flipping, I'll try that one too if you'll stand in front of me.
Bagger,
I hate to barge in but you'll need to stand behind me in this line- because before you get fresh meat- I get to hit a soft lobber with my driver using a full power 4 barrel snap release maximum trigger delay maximum swing radius maximum acceleration thru impact, while pulling a groin muscle.
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Heres a shot you can make by flipping

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Bagger,
I hate to barge in but you'll need to stand behind me in this line- because before you get fresh meat- I get to hit a soft lobber with my driver using a full power 4 barrel snap release maximum trigger delay maximum swing radius maximum acceleration thru impact, while pulling a groin muscle.
MikeO,

This forum does not condone any procedure which would cause bodily harm. Your post is an outright violation of forum rules. I humbly request that you consider using a 3-barrel pattern to avoid any self-inflicted groin injury.

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Keep in mind that the right forearm and elbow are the 'guide' in terms of any 'rotational' motion.

That is to say, swivel (startup and finish swivel) are not the same as hinge action.

Depending on the components used, hinge action may 'feel' like one smooth, constant swivel/rotation - but ALWAYS with the straightening right arm (with a bent right wrist) being the 'gatekeeper' for your Rhythm and rate of clubface closing.

Drill taking the club back to about hip high, flying wedges in place, and slowly straighten the right arm towards your impact fix hand location. You'll see that if the right forearm, the angle of approach, is correct, that the rate of clubface closing isn't a constant swivel action, even if it feels that way in some procedures (a true 'swing' with its throw out).
Great post Ed! And one more for the drills section.
We don't want to lose these.

Sorry for the interruption DOCW3 - How is the left wrist study coming?

Thanks,
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MikeO,

This forum does not condone any procedure which would cause bodily harm. Your post is an outright violation of forum rules. I humbly request that you consider using a 3-barrel pattern to avoid any self-inflicted groin injury.



Great post Ed! And one more for the drills section.
We don't want to lose these.

Sorry for the interruption DOCW3 - How is the left wrist study coming?

Thanks,
I knew you would want to be first in line! OK- I'll take the chicken left overs!
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