Overall, I can't buy into terminology that states "hips lead the down swing."
This is because "hips = part of the pivot" and I cannot say "part of the pivot leads (leads meaning "in charge of") the downswing." Hips accomplish work and have motion in the downswing but I can't buy into a leading role. Pros have probably played wonderful golf with the hips in the lead, but hips in the lead, to me, is not the hands controlled pivot of The Golfing Machine. Thanks for the work on the replies. I've learned a lot.
I'm done.
Lead means to be ahead of, not to pilot or guide. Hips move ahead of the shoulders. PLAIN AND SIMPLY. And since the Hands designed and are always monitoring- the three esstenials are intact. No fkn way does any movement of the pivot relocates the hands. In fact they assure staying ON Plane since they do not have to re-locate themselves veering off and back on. That is what the Pivot is trained for. Easy access to the ball.
I leave you with this. Everything I wrote is from Homer. Everything I learned about the G.O.L.F. stroke came from Homer's Book and explainations and instruction from Yoda. According to you- they both teach pivot control. Glad you debunked the myth.
Lead means to be ahead of, not to pilot or guide. Hips move ahead of the shoulders. PLAIN AND SIMPLY. And since the Hands designed and are always monitoring- the three esstenials are intact. No fkn way does any movement of the pivot relocates the hands. In fact they assure staying ON Plane since they do not have to re-locate themselves veering off and back on. That is what the Pivot is trained for. Easy access to the ball.
I leave you with this. Everything I wrote is from Homer. Everything I learned about the G.O.L.F. stroke came from Homer's Book and explainations and instruction from Yoda. According to you- they both teach pivot control. Glad you debunked the myth.
And everything that Tomasello taught comes straight from TGM....and in no hidden manner. For starters, 4-D-1 the drill with the clubshaft against the left forearm...have seen Tommy demonstrate it multiple times on video. I have yet to see another AI do that drill. How about the flying wedge drill.....or how about extensor action drill (have seen Chuck do that drill....not like Tomasello!@#$%^&*)
Tomasello quotes on hips and shoulders:
-There is no "tension" and or "seperation" of the hips and shoulders.
-The hips do not generate power they only maintain velocity.....
As Tommy said, just because you have read the bible doesn't mean you're going to heaven.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 05-30-2007 at 11:14 PM.
And everything that Tomasello taught comes straight from TGM....and in no hidden manner. For starters, 4-D-1 the drill with the clubshaft against the left forearm...have seen Tommy demonstrate it multiple times on video. I have yet to see another AI do that drill.
Tomasello quotes on hips and shoulders:
-There is no "tension" and or "seperation" of the hips and shoulders.
-The hips do not generate power they only maintain velocity.....
Just you know the book does not mean your interpreting it correctly.
As Tommy said, just because you have read the bible doesn't mean you're going to heaven.
DG
I did try to move these posts to another thread but the questions always came back here. I am not disputing TT.
And I never mention power generating from the hips. The hips do not generate power- they are part of the pivot. And Yes, they is a seperation of the Hips and Shoulders. Hula Hula- Delayed Hip Action. If you don't your pivot spacing is all wrong.
Personally- I am not an AI, but I do know a thing or two. As I said, my comments were not knocking that stroke pattern of Tom's like you think but explaining what Hands control Pivot is.
Tell Lynn that his interpreation is all wrong. I'd stay with Yoda and Lynn then YOU and Tom.
I will not enter your Magic kingdom of the right Forearm again. Just let people know that your explainations do not cover all stroke patterns- deal?
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