I bought the one without the degree of slope inhancement. My thought was to be able to use it in some events as well as practice rounds. I haven't been disappointed. I would like to hear what you have to say about the other model.
Pat
Pat
The degree of slope inhancement chip in the 1500 uses a formula that was created using a suveyors tool called a clinometer (incline meter). The original formula was done in % and as you know the 1500 uses degrees. This is unfortunate, because degrees are not as tight as % (0 to 90, degrees gives you 90 segments, % gives you 100). Also, it is very easy to do the math using % , very difficult using degrees. This may change, there is still talk of bringing out a model using %.
Most of the people on the various Tours who use this concept, (the # is growing every week) use % because, lazers are not allowed for shots in Tour events and being able to do the math quickly is critical. Interestingly enough, Jim Flick was asking about this same issue at the John Deere on Tuesday.
One final point, how tight do you want to be with your numbers; when I do a new course I use reflectors to check yardages because the varience with reflectors is very tight ( plus or minus 1 yd). Just shooting a flag or a bunker, the varience is probably plus or minus 3 and therefore your slope yds will also be affected
The degree of slope inhancement chip in the 1500 uses a formula that was created using a suveyors tool called a clinometer (incline meter). The original formula was done in % and as you know the 1500 uses degrees. This is unfortunate, because degrees are not as tight as % (0 to 90, degrees gives you 90 segments, % gives you 100). Also, it is very easy to do the math using % , very difficult using degrees. This may change, there is still talk of bringing out a model using %.
Most of the people on the various Tours who use this concept, (the # is growing every week) use % because, lazers are not allowed for shots in Tour events and being able to do the math quickly is critical. Interestingly enough, Jim Flick was asking about this same issue at the John Deere on Tuesday.
One final point, how tight do you want to be with your numbers; when I do a new course I use reflectors to check yardages because the varience with reflectors is very tight ( plus or minus 1 yd). Just shooting a flag or a bunker, the varience is probably plus or minus 3 and therefore your slope yds will also be affected
I just got one Friday and I'm sold. Shot below my handicap Friday and Sunday wearing a soft cast on my left leg up to the knee. On the eleventh hole (the one in Bucket's backyard) today I hit the ball pin high. This is our toughest approach and I think knowing the yardage was the difference. On the twelfth hole (the only one Bucket gets to play very often) the reading was 145 for a playing companion who was right on the 125 marker. The green is 43 yard deep and they almost missed the sucker with the flag. That was very good info to have that was not apparent just lookin' at it.
I have used a skycaddie for the past year but think I'm going to like this much better. I bought the tournament model without the slope calcuation so that it will be legal in tourament play.
I think I posted this to the wrong thread or something, but here goes again.
I got a Bushnell Pinseeker 1500 last Friday and it is pretty awesome. I have bee using a Skycaddie for the past year and have been pretty satisfied.
This ne tool is the bomb. On Friday I used it for the first time at my local muni (which is not skycaddie ready) and shot 75 with two doubles. I was amazed at how quickly it locks on the flag. I reall gives you confidence in the shot.
On Sunday afternoon, I took it to my club and again shot under my handicap. There is a hole with a 43 yard deep green that I advised my playing partner that he was 145 from the pin. "But I'm on the 125 marker." he was two clubs short as they almost missed the back of the green with the pin.
I think I posted this to the wrong thread or something, but here goes again.
I got a Bushnell Pinseeker 1500 last Friday and it is pretty awesome. I have bee using a Skycaddie for the past year and have been pretty satisfied.
This ne tool is the bomb. On Friday I used it for the first time at my local muni (which is not skycaddie ready) and shot 75 with two doubles. I was amazed at how quickly it locks on the flag. I reall gives you confidence in the shot.
On Sunday afternoon, I took it to my club and again shot under my handicap. There is a hole with a 43 yard deep green that I advised my playing partner that he was 145 from the pin. "But I'm on the 125 marker." he was two clubs short as they almost missed the back of the green with the pin.
I'm sold.
MacParrot,
I was shocked by the kind of numbers you mention when I started as a caddie. I had become a pretty decent player without any idea how much pins changed the yardage. I added some but not nearly enough. It gets really out of hand with diagonal greens where you end up in a trap or hazard with a good shot but the wrong yardage.
We still double check the numbers when we come up with 145 when we are standing by the 125 marker. Big green, back pin. After you have looked at the real numbers for a while, it just sinks in. You get much better at judging them on the fly without the laser.
I just got one Friday and I'm sold. Shot below my handicap Friday and Sunday wearing a soft cast on my left leg up to the knee. On the eleventh hole (the one in Bucket's backyard) today I hit the ball pin high. This is our toughest approach and I think knowing the yardage was the difference. On the twelfth hole (the only one Bucket gets to play very often) the reading was 145 for a playing companion who was right on the 125 marker. The green is 43 yard deep and they almost missed the sucker with the flag. That was very good info to have that was not apparent just lookin' at it.
I just got one Friday and I'm sold. Shot below my handicap Friday and Sunday wearing a soft cast on my left leg up to the knee. On the eleventh hole (the one in Bucket's backyard) today I hit the ball pin high. This is our toughest approach and I think knowing the yardage was the difference. On the twelfth hole (the only one Bucket gets to play very often) the reading was 145 for a playing companion who was right on the 125 marker. The green is 43 yard deep and they almost missed the sucker with the flag. That was very good info to have that was not apparent just lookin' at it.
I have used a skycaddie for the past year but think I'm going to like this much better. I bought the tournament model without the slope calcuation so that it will be legal in tourament play.
I'm not sure about my boot!!!!
Originally Posted by housefull
I just got one Friday and I'm sold. Shot below my handicap Friday and Sunday wearing a soft cast on my left leg up to the knee. On the eleventh hole (the one in Bucket's backyard) today I hit the ball pin high. This is our toughest approach and I think knowing the yardage was the difference. On the twelfth hole (the only one Bucket gets to play very often) the reading was 145 for a playing companion who was right on the 125 marker. The green is 43 yard deep and they almost missed the sucker with the flag. That was very good info to have that was not apparent just lookin' at it.
Jeez! What are the odds two guys posting 3 years apart could have gotten on on a Friday, shot below their handicap and been wearing soft casts up to the knee!!1
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The degree of slope inhancement chip in the 1500 uses a formula that was created using a suveyors tool called a clinometer (incline meter). The original formula was done in % and as you know the 1500 uses degrees. This is unfortunate, because degrees are not as tight as % (0 to 90, degrees gives you 90 segments, % gives you 100). Also, it is very easy to do the math using % , very difficult using degrees. This may change, there is still talk of bringing out a model using %.
Most of the people on the various Tours who use this concept, (the # is growing every week) use % because, lazers are not allowed for shots in Tour events and being able to do the math quickly is critical. Interestingly enough, Jim Flick was asking about this same issue at the John Deere on Tuesday.
One final point, how tight do you want to be with your numbers; when I do a new course I use reflectors to check yardages because the varience with reflectors is very tight ( plus or minus 1 yd). Just shooting a flag or a bunker, the varience is probably plus or minus 3 and therefore your slope yds will also be affected
Hope is helps, if not, I'll try harder
It should be known, and OK is too modest. OK introduced the clinometer to golf. He found the instrument and worked out the correlation of percentage to golf shot (he did have some help with this). There is some difference in the effect based on the club being used and the trajectory. It has become a standard piece of information that players want. My personal opinion is that the most important piece it yields is a hard number instead of "it's 150 yards plus about half a club," it becomes "150--up 4% = 156 total."
He also consulted with and product tested for Bushnell as they introduced their version.
Nice post, some really good info there. I think as golfers we all under estimate the rise and fall aspect of the golf course and we overlook how much of a difference it will make in the yardage. The more info about the shot at hand you can give a good player the more exact he/she will be.
Thanks for the info, I'll keep my eye open for an opportunity to try the other model of the 1500.
Pat
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