Darn OB. That was great! Keep it coming. Don't get well soon...lol
I am feeling all L arm right now, from Start Up to Impact. Very L arm at Start Up, Turning my L hand, but same time making sure my R hand cooperates by turning as well, but without moving the R elbow. This makes the R palm facing the Plane early, the back of L hand facing the Plane early...staying on Hands/Shaft plane for quite a bit...then, of course, shifting to Elbow Plane, then later to Turned Shoulder Plane if I really want a very Full Swing, I consider this the Top Arc, but I think this is not Top Arc per TGM because my L hand very seldom goes higher than the Top (Turned Shoulder). All that R arm does for me is make sure the R Elbow remains Pitch and my all the way from Start Up to Start Down, and that my R palm faces the Plane with a Bent R Wrist from Backstroke to Start Down.
Then I just begin the Hip Action, Rotating it but at same time Laterally moving it. At this time I make sure my R Hand/Wrist is still Turned, the R palm still facing the plane, I focus at this time on the R because this is my monkey wrench. Once my R forearm/elbow goes "inside" with R palm still facing the Plane and R wrist Bent, at that split second the Start Down finishes, I just Pivot HARD...L arm not inert at all...it is firing hard from L shoulder to hand...all Roll...all PA3...Dual Horizontal Hinging...if I don't, I hit the ball right...feels like the ClubFACE is Angle Hinging though...if I don't Non-Auto Roll it, feels like the ClubFACE is Vertical Hinging...hope that make sense...my R arm/wrist/hand just goes along for the ride...though I always feel my PP3 pressuring the shaft Radially if I try to feel what is happening with my R hand. My R Elbow never extends, it never fires, or at least I don't encourage it...but sure it straightens, but not intended. Totally no PA1 for me. Then that high hands finish that takes longer than expected to come down...
Notice that I don't think PA2 at all..but yes, it fires/uncocks as well of course...but just very slightly before PA3 releases based on videos...So I guess my PA2 is "Auto", and Releases first, at the end of that Drag Loading...thats why I would say its 4-3-2...that is the Intent...though in reality its 4-2-3. Have lots of #3 angle...don't like tiny #3...makes my L Hand Roll very much and too soon and I hit it all over...makes sense based on TGM, I think, because I don't like PA2...yes, I release it (PA3) early, as early as the Start Down is completed..feels like as soon as I Start Down...but not at the same time it starts...its like Drag and Roll for me...I like the feeling of keeping PA2 unreleased...I know its impossible...but I like that feeling...I avoid ANY feeling of uncocking PA2...almost feels like I'm trying to avoid or prevent it from releasing, though I don't do anything to keep it unreleased...
...L arm not inert at all...it is firing hard from L shoulder to hand...all Roll...all PA3...
It should be inert! - the Left Flying Wedge rolls(Throwout) because the left shoulder is moving off plane, being driven by the right shoulder. Rolling the left wrist gives Hor. Hinging and is completely independent of Throwout. Hinge action of the left wrist doesn't mean the left arm is "active".
It should be inert! - the Left Flying Wedge rolls(Throwout) because the left shoulder is moving off plane, being driven by the right shoulder. Rolling the left wrist gives Hor. Hinging and is completely independent of Throwout. Hinge action of the left wrist doesn't mean the left arm is "active".
Maybe that is just what I feel..but yeah, it is actually, if I come to think of it, really just going along for the ride...the ride or main engine being the L shoulder/PA4/pivot...yeah, Inert...Lifeless...
But MJ, my R shoulder is never firing...if it does, I sure never felt or intended it...
Yeah, I feel my L wrist is firing, but I feel or "think" more about my L Elbow...very important to me as it helps my L arm behave "properly"... Does this L Elbow move of mine still qualifies my L arm as Inert?
Maybe that is just what I feel..but yeah, it is actually, if I come to think of it, really just going along for the ride...the ride or main engine being the L shoulder/PA4/pivot...yeah, Inert...Lifeless...
But MJ, my R shoulder is never firing...if it does, I sure never felt or intended it...
Yeah, I feel my L wrist is firing, but I feel or "think" more about my L Elbow...very important to me as it helps my L arm behave "properly"... Does this L Elbow move of mine still qualifies my L arm as Inert?
I can only conclude that you're pulling with your left shoulder, which will drag the right shoulder and RFW. This not only sacrifices power, but can mess up impact alignments. You should drive the right shoulder down plane, propelling PP#3 through impact. There's a good reason why TGM hardly makes mention of the left shoulder.
I hope by firing the left wrist, you mean rolling it, which is the only legitimate left wrist move you can make.
I'm also confused by your contradictory statements that your left arm is inert, and that you also make a "L Elbow move". If it's the move that T Bertrand claims that Hogan made, I recommend not doing it. Any left elbow move would make the left arm active, not inert.
In summary, I think, like a lot of Hogan followers, you're probably trying to execute the golf stroke like a left-handed, top-spin tennis stroke. And that's a road to somewhere you don't want to go.
I can only conclude that you're pulling with your left shoulder, which will drag the right shoulder and RFW. This not only sacrifices power, but can mess up impact alignments. You should drive the right shoulder down plane, propelling PP#3 through impact. There's a good reason why TGM hardly makes mention of the left shoulder.
I hope by firing the left wrist, you mean rolling it, which is the only legitimate left wrist move you can make.
I'm also confused by your contradictory statements that your left arm is inert, and that you also make a "L Elbow move". If it's the move that T Bertrand claims that Hogan made, I recommend not doing it. Any left elbow move would make the left arm active, not inert.
In summary, I think, like a lot of Hogan followers, you're probably trying to execute the golf stroke like a left-handed, top-spin tennis stroke. And that's a road to somewhere you don't want to go.
Even for a Swinger, the L arm is inert? Why? What is TGM's rationale for this?
Re L elbow turn, why do you not recommend that? The way I see it now, it is the same as turning the L wrist, just with more consistency. And, it is sorta like just an insurance that the L forearm will behave properly at Impact and FollowThru---L elbow bending but not retracting backwards laterally to the side and remaining in front of the torso (not chicken winging), with the L forearm/wrist still being able to turn to the fullest/efficiently and L forearm going upwards. So input power is being transferred efficiently to the L wrist and to the clubhead.
And, for a Swinger who is using #4 anyway, why would turning the L elbow make the L arm exert (not inert)? The way I see it now, the L arm being Exert (sorry, easier to type...lol) will only be unwanted IF the Swinger slows down or doesn't use #4 and then rely on Exerting his L arm to Swing the club. But this is not what I'm saying. I'm saying its #4 that is the MAIN pulling power, with #3 just being made sure to perform to transfer that power to the clubhead. The L elbow turn is just for that---Transfer of Power. That's why #3 it is called Transfer Power, correct? The L elbow turn ENSURES that...no? So why not help that Transferring of Power?
Even for a Swinger, the L arm is inert? Why? What is TGM's rationale for this?
Re L elbow turn, why do you not recommend that? The way I see it now, it is the same as turning the L wrist, just with more consistency. And, it is sorta like just an insurance that the L forearm will behave properly at Impact and FollowThru---L elbow bending but not retracting backwards laterally to the side and remaining in front of the torso (not chicken winging), with the L forearm/wrist still being able to turn to the fullest/efficiently and L forearm going upwards. So input power is being transferred efficiently to the L wrist and to the clubhead.
And, for a Swinger who is using #4 anyway, why would turning the L elbow make the L arm exert (not inert)? The way I see it now, the L arm being Exert (sorry, easier to type...lol) will only be unwanted IF the Swinger slows down or doesn't use #4 and then rely on Exerting his L arm to Swing the club. But this is not what I'm saying. I'm saying its #4 that is the MAIN pulling power, with #3 just being made sure to perform to transfer that power to the clubhead. The L elbow turn is just for that---Transfer of Power. That's why #3 it is called Transfer Power, correct? The L elbow turn ENSURES that...no? So why not help that Transferring of Power?
SWINGER OR HITTER the left arm is INERT meaning it is simply a length to be maintained, it is the same as if you replaced your left arm with a rope, IT HAS NO MUSCULAR CONTRIBUTION, it's only contribution is it's maintained natural length to provide structure and radius to the swing. the left elbow should not bend until the FINISH not the follow through, the right arm should never be straight until the end of the FOLLOW THROUGH. the arm movement you're describing sounds as if you are not clearing the left hip, THE LEFT HIP MUST CLEAR OUT to allow both arms to get to both arms straight while making room for a full roll on plane without any strange lifting or bending of the left arm as you are describing.
ALL swingers are using #4 IT IS THE MASTER ACCUMULATOR, IT must be released first it provides the main power source of the gear train. I have no idea what you mean by turning the left elbow makes it 'exert'....
Do not concern yourself with left elbow turning, focus more on the right elbow and the left hip and left wrist for proper swivel and hinge.
turning the left elbow from the top will not "help" the #3 accumulator, the only way to help or rather ensure that you get the transfer of the #3 accumulator power is to uncock the left wrist on plane and CLEAR the left hip, that is GET OUT OF THE WAY clear that left hip!
Not sure you're talking about the same move: when you say "elbow turn" I see (and it looks like MizunoJoe too) a movement of the entire arm from the shoulder. That could intefere with the pressure on #4. #3 release is pronation/supination, a movement of the forearm ("wrist movement" in TGM terms).
Not sure you're talking about the same move: when you say "elbow turn" I see (and it looks like MizunoJoe too) a movement of the entire arm from the shoulder. That could intefere with the pressure on #4. #3 release is pronation/supination, a movement of the forearm ("wrist movement" in TGM terms).
No, #3 release(Throwout) is the LFW being driven off-plane by the driving right shoulder in order to deliver the sweetspot to the ball.
Not sure you're talking about the same move: when you say "elbow turn" I see (and it looks like MizunoJoe too) a movement of the entire arm from the shoulder. That could intefere with the pressure on #4. #3 release is pronation/supination, a movement of the forearm ("wrist movement" in TGM terms).
Yeah, the L elbow turn is a CCW movement of the whole upper arm from shoulder to elbow.
But actually, it helps add pressure to #4. When I turn my L elbow (whole upper arm bone actually), my L triceps "presses" into the side of my chest/torso/armpit. So it doesn't interfere with #4, in fact it helps a lot. I actually don't feel PP#4 much when I don't turn the L elbow.
Re #3 release as supination..movement of the forearm/wrist movement...moving the upper arm actually will move the elbow, which in turn moves the forearm, which in turn the wrist...it is just like painting but you are holding the paintbrush at the opposite end...turning the forearm or wrist itself is like holding the paintbrush near the brush...
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