One can putt with a little push stroke. As more power is needed #3 and #2 and pivot is increased.
There are proportions, I was looking for others ideas.
Thats all. how do U handle the balance?
HB
In push putting, only #1 is used, so if you need more power, you push harder. I've never seen a putting stroke which uses #2 or #3, both of which should be zeroed out.
There AIN'T NO C.F. IN TRUE HITTING END OF STORY HOMER WROTE THE BOOK THE END GO SPEND Forty YEARS WORTH OF RESEARCH AND FELT BACK TO ME ALL YOU PIONEER'S IF GOLF THEOREM
The earth isn't flat even though Homer Kelley omitted to clearly state that it is round. But you and MizunoJoe use flat-earth-arguments over and over, and attribute them to HK and TGM.
There are a lot of people in golf who understand enough physics to see that your "there ain't no CF in true hitting..." statement above is pure nonsense. Absurd claims such as these give TGM a bad reputation.
I would agree in that it does no work. But it does change the energy vector. Explaining why that is important to golf is a place we do not want to go I would guess?
Maybe because very few golfers can run 100 mph? Or golf carts go that fast.
Wow, a 100+ mph golf cart. Just put an sweet spot on the front bumper, tee it high and steer (normaly bad-good here). Tough to shape shots though.
hb
I think you just invented the concept of O.L.F. Only Linear Force. Nice touch to eliminate the geometry of the circle.
Assuming these are not "flat-earth" questions, and you know enough physics to answer, does CF add club head speed over and above that provided by the right triceps in Hitting? If so, how?
OB - I did not mean to get everyone to a "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" question. The question, in my mind, was clear but after all the comments it is not.
One can putt with a little push stroke. As more power is needed #3 and #2 and pivot is increased.
There are proportions, I was looking for others ideas.
Thats all. how do U handle the balance?
HB
I'd need to know the angle of inclination of the pin head and what sort of footwear the angels are wearing. Rubber soles or leather? The other dimensions I have already from one of Daryl's posts.
Uh what exactly do you want to know? How when Hitting you introduce the various accumulators and more acceleration (lag pressure) through the bag?
Assuming these are not "flat-earth" questions, and you know enough physics to answer, does CF add club head speed over and above that provided by the right triceps in Hitting? If so, how?
G.O.L.F: Geometrical Oriented Linear Force.
Centripetal Force creates the geometry of the circle, Linear Force produces the speed.
Centripetal plus Centrifugal Force produces or assists in the release.
Centrifugal Force - that's the CF in TGM: Club head inertia resisting being moved in a circle. I don't have the book with me, but I think this is close. You can look up the definition.... Anyway, CF doesn't produce any swing speed. It isn't even applied on the club head. It is applied on the golfer from the club head.
Before the release, things are moving on a somewhat curved pattern already. Which also means that there is a CF/CF pair alive. You have an inert club head that is "trying" to move straight ahead and pulling and pushing anything that changes it's speed or direction, including the club shaft and the hands holding the shaft. Then you have a Centripetal Force that pulls inward (towards the swing center), adding a curve to the club head travel. Caught in the middle you have a cocked left wrist. The two forces pulling from each side of the hands will cause or contribute to uncocking of the right wrist and release.
The release will effectively increase the swing radius. The club will not pick up speed just because of this swing radius extension. Instead the handle will slow down dramatically unless......
.... unless the golfer resists the hands from slowing down. And in a good golf stroke, the golfer will resist how much CF slows down the hands - by producing a very strong linear force during the release interval. And that's what gives the added swing speed. Always linear force. And only linear force. The only thing that produces swing speed. It's on the front page.
The release works like a gear shift. Hands will move slower, yet the linear force applied is greater, adding leverage to the hitter's driving right arm and the pivot via left arm & extensior action.
..........The release will effectively increase the swing radius. The club will not pick up speed just because of this swing radius extension. Instead the handle will slow down dramatically unless......
.... unless the golfer resists the hands from slowing down. And in a good golf stroke, the golfer will resist how much CF slows down the hands - by producing a very strong linear force during the release interval. And that's what gives the added swing speed. Always linear force. And only linear force. The only thing that produces swing speed. It's on the front page.
The release works like a gear shift. Hands will move slower, yet the linear force applied is greater, adding leverage to the hitter's driving right arm and the pivot via left arm & extensior action.
(Red by Daryl)
I don't want to Thread-Jack but this is disturbing. Although Release will slow the Hands, the "Pulley" analogy explains the method by which Golfers can and do compensate.
No Linear Force in Hitting or Swinging. No need to manipulate or steer. The Ball can respond to an Angular Force as though it were struck by a Linear Force.
Also, and one small point. ..... If COAM exists with both Swingers and Hitters, doesn't that prove CF exists with both Swingers and Hitters?
I don't want to Thread-Jack but this is disturbing. Although Release will slow the Hands, the "Pulley" analogy explains the method by which Golfers can and do compensate.
No Linear Force in Hitting or Swinging. No need to manipulate or steer. The Ball can respond to an Angular Force as though it were struck by a Linear Force.
Also, and one small point. ..... If COAM exists with both Swingers and Hitters, doesn't that prove the existence of Centrifugal Force?
We do need some caution in analysis. Lag- extends to the last lagging component-the hands are in that chain- up through the power-package and into the pivot.
I don't want to Thread-Jack but this is disturbing. Although Release will slow the Hands, the "Pulley" analogy explains the method by which Golfers can and do compensate.
No Linear Force in Hitting or Swinging. No need to manipulate or steer. The Ball can respond to an Angular Force as though it were struck by a Linear Force.
Also, and one small point. ..... If COAM exists with both Swingers and Hitters, doesn't that prove CF exists with both Swingers and Hitters?
Agree about "angular force" as far as impact is concerned. (It's an odd term though) But my response was in the context of how swing speed is produced during the release. It is linear force or some force that contains or leads to linear force, that produces swing speed. The physics' equivalent to TGM's linear force would be tangential force, btw. The force (components) that coincides 100% with the direction of the club head motion.
Steering and manipulation is not required to produce linear force.
COAM - I don't want to go there today. IT's a beast! PM me if you want a long version about COAM in golf. I have a link I can dig up.
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