I would suspect a flaw in your procedure/execution. I have swung the club with my right arm for years and no pain from the swinging procedure I learned from Tom Tomasello. I swing daily with weighted clubs per Harvey Penick's recommendation too.
As Tom Tomasello has said, all big hitters use their right arm.
DG
Yes, but so does everyone else. There are three ways - Swing or drive the right forearm through impact, or use the Right Arm Swing with pitch elbow and risk the "twinge" that HB points out in 7-19.
Yes, but so does everyone else. There are three ways - Swing or drive the right forearm through impact, or use the Right Arm Swing with pitch elbow and risk the "twinge" that HB points out in 7-19.
I have been swinging with the right arm for over 15 years never felt a twinge in my right elbow.
Just read the new Mike Bender book Zach is using his arms in the downswing just like Tomasello per the Tomasello videos on this site. Interesting to note Bender is a Mac O'Grady disciple. Who did Mac O'Grady and Tom Tomasello spend a lot of time studying the Golfing Machine with....HK (Homer Kelley the man himself).
using his arms in the downswing just like Tomasello per the Tomasello videos on this
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
I have been swinging with the right arm for over 15 years never felt a twinge in my right elbow.
Just read the new Mike Bender book Zach is using his arms in the downswing just like Tomasello per the Tomasello videos on this site. Interesting to note Bender is a Mac O'Grady disciple. Who did Mac O'Grady and Tom Tomasello spend a lot of time studying the Golfing Machine with....HK (Homer Kelley the man himself).
DG
"using his arms in the downswing just like Tomasello per the Tomasello videos on this site."
DG, in my most effective rounds of golf, I felt like I was "a machine actively concentrating on maintaining my systems of arms and hands."
Yesterday, shooting a 76, and earlier shooting a 77 and an 80, I felt like I wheeled my machine in a a direction and "did the checklist!" So yesterday, I was- ..."center of green- marker one foot in front of ball- Ball position- Angle Hinge Impact rehearsal through the ball-Impact Fix-left wrist cock-right arm drive. "
Near the green- "pitch, chip or putt?" Then, the rehearsal of Impact through the Ball and the checklist was done.
I felt like a was a small canon checking aim, elevation and amount of gunpowder! Does this constitute what you said in the quote above?
ICT
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4. DG is swinging with Full Power as described in the 7th edition of the golfing machine. I'm using the whipcracking technique taught by Tom Tomasello mentioned in the Golfing Machine per section 9-2 by Homer Kelley. Crack that whip!!! Devo. Circa early 80's.
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4. DG is swinging with Full Power as described in the 7th edition of the golfing machine. I'm using the whipcracking technique taught by Tom Tomasello mentioned in the Golfing Machine per section 9-2 by Homer Kelley. Crack that whip!!! Devo. Circa early 80's.
That is twice you have omitted to classify yourself as a right arm swinger or not. I will do as I suspect you do, continue to crack that whip as a left arm swinger who knows how to use his right arm. The mystery fades away.
That is twice you have omitted to classify yourself as a right arm swinger or not. I will do as I suspect you do, continue to crack that whip as a left arm swinger who knows how to use his right arm. The mystery fades away.
Bumpy
One section that Tomasello didn't agree with Homer on is that last paragraph of 7-19 with Twinge comment. I agree.
Just go to the Chapter Series on "Power" and you'll see how I use my right arm to accelerate the club.
On my full swing what I think about is three things, withdrawl the right hip, extensor action and keeping the hands on the straight delivery path.
Right Hip/Right Arm Backstroke, Right Arm/Left Hip Downstroke. On the downstroke, I just let the left hip respond to the action of the right arm (magic of the right forearm per 7-3), the hips lead the shoulders. The hips react with a sliding motion, then a rotational motion for release and follow through.
One section that Tomasello didn't agree with Homer on is that last paragraph of 7-19 with Twinge comment. I agree.
Just go to the Chapter Series on "Power" and you'll see how I use my right arm to accelerate the club.
On my full swing what I think about is three things, withdrawl the right hip, extensor action and keeping the hands on the straight delivery path.
Right Hip/Right Arm Backstroke, Right Arm/Left Hip Downstroke. On the downstroke, I just let the left hip respond to the action of the right arm (magic of the right forearm per 7-3), the hips lead the shoulders. The hips react with a sliding motion, then a rotational motion for release and follow through.
DG
I really enjoy the Tomasello videos despite what 'appears' to be some descrepencies. 'Appears' to me that Tom was teaching a left arm swing with a wrist throw. Yoda 'appears' to have some genuine respect and/or affection for Tomasello so I don't wish to pursue this matter any further.
Originally Posted by HungryBear
Read 6th edition, 7-19, last paragraph, ....So, if there is a twinge in the elbow..
HB
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
I have been swinging with the right arm for over 15 years never felt a twinge in my right elbow.
DG
That's because your right elbow does not replace your left shoulder.
Additionally, Yoda has stated that Tom was not teaching a right arm swing.
Let's review,
1. Homer is wrong.
2. Lynn is wrong.
3. Tom's interpretations of Homer and the machine are correct.
4. DG's interpretation of Tomasello, Homer and the machine are all correct.
5. DG is unable to demonstrate a valid argument.
Let's face it, Zach is a poster child for pissing away 'arm power'.
Originally Posted by HungryBear
Read 6th edition, 7-19, last paragraph, ....So, if there is a twinge in the elbow..
HB
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
I have been swinging with the right arm for over 15 years never felt a twinge in my right elbow.
DG
That's because your right elbow does not replace your left shoulder.
Additionally, Yoda has stated that Tom was not teaching a right arm swing.
Let's review,
1. Homer is wrong.
2. Lynn is wrong.
3. Tom's interpretations of Homer and the machine are correct.
4. DG's interpretation of Tomasello, Homer and the machine are all correct.
5. DG is unable to demonstrate a valid argument.
Let's face it, Zach is a poster child for pissing away 'arm power'.
Bumpy
Thanks for the complements.
I don't get the pissing away arm power comment??? I believe it should be the opposite.
Trust me I've done enough arguing between the original TGM website and this site to last a lifetime. No need to argue, the facts are out and golfers like Zach are winning tournaments at the highest level. Just checkout Mike Bender's book at your local Barnes and Noble. Remember Mac O'Grady is Mike's mentor!!! Ya no that Homer Kelley student! Oh BTW, per the April 1991 edition of Golf Illustrated, Golfer Jodie Mudd mentions two instructors who helped him keep his tour card and make him a complete player (Players Championship and Tour Championship winner), who were those two instructors....hmmmmm. Tom Tomasello and Mac O'Grady. Interesting!!!
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 08-14-2012 at 10:06 PM.
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