I don't want to start an argument on Tomasellp or anyone esle but I do have a simple question. For a novice in TGM, if one is watching a video of someone who does not adhere strictly to TGM, is there not a "danger" (for lack of a better word) of being led astray, resulting in not incorporating proper TGM techniques?
For example I watched the first two videos, (seemed pretty good to me) but I also read the statement that Tomasello did not adhere strictly to TGM . . . so I started thinking, should I watch these or not, I'm confused enough as it is? Will I be reading one thing in the book and then incorporating something else in practice?
I don't mean to step on any toes . . . so please forgive . . . just trying to learn TGM. I have limited amount of time I can spend on the FORUM so I need to use my time wisely.
I'm a member of the multi-tasking generation.I can chew gum, watch tv, read a book, eat a meal, surf the web and watch golf videos on my computer at the same time! I am not exaggerating. Senator Clinton says multi-tasking is bad for the youth of America. I call it evolution. More please!!
I don't want to start an argument on Tomasellp or anyone esle but I do have a simple question. For a novice in TGM, if one is watching a video of someone who does not adhere strictly to TGM, is there not a "danger" (for lack of a better word) of being led astray, resulting in not incorporating proper TGM techniques?
For example I watched the first two videos, (seemed pretty good to me) but I also read the statement that Tomasello did not adhere strictly to TGM . . . so I started thinking, should I watch these or not, I'm confused enough as it is? Will I be reading one thing in the book and then incorporating something else in practice?
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This was a question I wrestled with prior to going ahead with the Series. For the most part, I have no problem with the information as presented. My reservations with the balance fall into three categories:
1. Presenting a concept in a radically different way that gets the point across but at the expense of the underlying Principles. I don't like it, but I can live with it.
2. Teaching a 'Feel' at the expense of 'Real,' the precise underlying Mechanic. I am less tolerant of this deviation but can also live with the situation -- as long as the correct Mechanic is ultimately identified.
3. Presenting information that is just plain wrong. Here there can be no compromise. The errors cannot be allowed to stand as fact and must be corrected. That said, I do not view these threads as a personal soapbox. I intend to let them develop and mature on their own. Along the way, I will participate meaningfully as the opportunity arises. Over time, if the obvious errors have not been brought to light, then I will step forward.
My decision to post these videos was made deliberately in spite of the above concerns. That is because I sincerely believe there is far more good to be gained by listening to Tommy than harm. Where the divide is simply too wide, I will present alternatives.
Fourm Members can then weigh the merits of each, and decide for themselves what to accept and what to reject.
Accelerating Radially and Longitudinally.....
Which one?
Making a horizontal wrist (grip) motion by trying to flatten the right wrist through impact.....
Doesn't Mr. Kelley state (4-D-1) Hitters, especially, must learn to straighten the Right Arm without flattening the Right Wrist?
Where to begin? Where to begin?
Make your points, Drew. They are good ones. Let the dialogues begin!
It would be wise to replay the videos of Tomasello....he doesn't promote trying to flatten the right wrist through impact....what he tells you is this....even with your driving right forearm, if you "ALLOW" your left hip to keep clearing you won't be able to flatten the right wrist through impact.
A short quote from Tomasello's Golf Illustrated interview....
"Yes. The delayed hit is merely keeping the right wrist bent through impact".
DG
This should be in the Chapter Three / Hands thread, but I will follow the line of this one.
All I can say, DG, is that Monday I tried the exact motion he demonstrates...and I mean I sincerely tried -- even though I'm the original 'do or do not' guy -- but when I did the Flattening Right Wrist motion he demonstrated -- Hip Clearing and all -- the shots were far inferior to my normal Bent Right Wrist shots.
I personally find any hint of Right Wrist flattening -- particularly when demonstrated by an authorirty and accompanied by the words "Hit it! Hit it! and "Fire that Right Hand Out" and "Try to Unbend the Right Wrist...Undo it! Undo it!" -- to be an affront to my entire TGM being. Nothing against Tommy personally...that's just how ingrained the Bent Right Wrist training is with me.
Uncock the Right Elbow -- fine. Uncock the Left Wrist -- fine. Hit that Ball with a Bent Right Wrist and Pressure Points #1 and #3 in the Right Hand -- fine. But do not ever demo to a student a Flattening Right Wrist -- a geometrically-disastrous Horizontal Motion of the Wrist -- and say "Hit it! Hit it! Undo the Bend as you go through the golf ball. You won't be able to do it." I have news:
They are able to do it. In fact, they are already doing it, and it's why they are there!
I interpreted the flattening of the right wrist as a method to train the pivot, specifically the left hip to rotate more and faster, ahead of the hands. Extreme hands controlled pivot. Hands and pivot feed off of each other. Trying to flatten the right wrist will cause the hips to rotate faster, and the faster rotation of the hips will prevent throwaway. I never got the impression he espoused a flat right wrist during impact. Just demonstrating the importance of clearing the left hip as soon and as much as possible.
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