I was wondering what TGM's take was on the snaping straight of the left leg through impact. ALOT!!! of tour players do it, and it seems like the best kept secret. AK does snaps his leg straight before impact, while Tiger does it just post impact. Im have been trying mercilessly to accomplish this but i havent had much luck. I think i know how its done in but when i try to put it into practice, it doesnt work at all.
There isnt a Jumping out of the stance at all i think, What it is is, when your weight is heavily on your front leg, and you turn against it, you get the sensation of it starting to straight. I think that this is how it is done, you plant your left leg, and then you turn in some way to snap ur left leg straight.
What you all think?
If anybody has a swing where you snap your left leg that be great.
I was wondering what TGM's take was on the snaping straight of the left leg through impact. ALOT!!! of tour players do it, and it seems like the best kept secret. AK does snaps his leg straight before impact, while Tiger does it just post impact. Im have been trying mercilessly to accomplish this but i havent had much luck. I think i know how its done in but when i try to put it into practice, it doesnt work at all.
There isnt a Jumping out of the stance at all i think, What it is is, when your weight is heavily on your front leg, and you turn against it, you get the sensation of it starting to straight. I think that this is how it is done, you plant your left leg, and then you turn in some way to snap ur left leg straight.
What you all think?
If anybody has a swing where you snap your left leg that be great.
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Your post leads us back -- however indifferently -- to Bobby Jones, the '20s and the 'straight left side'.
Indeed, your Left Knee characterization leads us to believe it acts:
so your saying that the hips are controlling the left knee snapping then? cause ive found, if you dont swing with your feet, or kind of "plant" into the ground, golfs going to be alot harder.
All the great hitters have that squat, or at least most of them do. them kind of lowering down and then the hips spinning. In my swing, i can get the lower part...i kind of squat and turn, and my leg almost snaps straight, i can feel the sensation, but then it doesnt snap all the way. I must be doing something way wrong becuase, again, w players like AK, the leg is extended PRIOR to impact. So if he gets it straight that quickly, and i cant even do it post impact, i must have a big gap in my motion...i should upload my swing soon
so your saying that the hips are controlling the left knee snapping then? cause ive found, if you dont swing with your feet, or kind of "plant" into the ground, golfs going to be alot harder.
All the great hitters have that squat, or at least most of them do. them kind of lowering down and then the hips spinning. In my swing, i can get the lower part...i kind of squat and turn, and my leg almost snaps straight, i can feel the sensation, but then it doesnt snap all the way. I must be doing something way wrong becuase, again, w players like AK, the leg is extended PRIOR to impact. So if he gets it straight that quickly, and i cant even do it post impact, i must have a big gap in my motion...i should upload my swing soon
AK doesn't straighten the Left Knee before Impact. Watch any of his Face-on video in slow-mo and you'll see his Left Knee straightening through the Impact interval as his Hips almost face the Target. His Hip Turn causes the Knee to straighten. The bent knee allows his hips to turn. As the Turn progresses, the less bent the knee becomes.
This is an example of Homer Kelley's "Standard Hip Turn" modified by the "Right Anchor" "Knee Action".
His Left Hip rotates away from the Target Line as his right hip travels down the line because AK Pivots around the inside of his Right Leg. His "un-centered" Pivot (ala Ben Hogan and AKA Homer Kelley's "Right Anchor") gives his Left Hip a wider range of motion than his Right Hip. His Left leg becomes straight as the distance increases between his left hip and left foot. This is very noticeable in any Down-the-line view of his swing. Notice that his Hip Turn is level-ish compared to Tigers (tigers is more slanted). Tiger uses muscular effort to "Snap" the Left Knee straight at Impact. Purposely straightening the Left Leg causes his left Hip to rise which causes his Hip Turn to truncate. A few years ago, Tiger said he used that procedure when he wanted a little extra yardage ( ya, that seems to be working).
Tigers Right Hip seems to "run into" his left hip. The Right Hip of AK and BH flow down the Target Line in-line with their right foot because their Left Hip clears out of the way.
Here's a little quote from the Ben Hogan book.
Quote:
THE DOWNSWING. The shoulders finally catch up with the Hips at the end of the swing.
As regards the legs, a great many golfers think that classical style prescribes that, at impact and throughout the follow-through, the left leg should be as straight as a stick. Definitely not. If you keep your left leg straight, you prohibit your hips from making their full turn and restrict the whole free flow of your body.
The position Tiger is in there looks really damaging to mee. Hogan's move is better for spine & left knee and probably for ball trajectory as well.
Also note that AK saves his knee by flaring his front foot slightly open between the two frames. You can see a lot of that in Sadlowski's swing and also in Bubba Watson and a few others. They are however not snapping the knee. It is more like a running motion. Kick off the right foot, land on left, kick off the left foot. I'm more of a walker myself
Kelvin Myiahira has attributed the workings of the pivot to the "spine engine theory". He compares the footwork, the hipwork and the motions in the spine with what happens when we walk and run. It is very detailed on what happens between the hips and the arms, which isn't really detailed in the yellow book. But still 100% in agreement with the TGM notion that Yoda posted: "Hip Slide/Turn dictates Knee Action. Not vice versa".
I just gotta couple things i want to say. 1st is look at this link zoomed on AK's legs, to me it looks like the left leg is straight, almost extended, BEFORE he hits the ball.
Right at 45 seconds, the leg looks almost locked up.
And just to clarify a few things, you guys are saying he is using his HIPS to lock up his leg/ straighten his knee? NOT using his KNEES to do it? im getting this from the comment TGM, " the hip turn/slide dictates knees" or seomthing along those lines...
Im just confused, wouldnt it make more sense that the knees control the hips instead, cause they are closer to the ground...like the old saying feet-knees-hip-shoulder-arms-hands-clubhead,(Kinamatic sequence)
I think i already know the answer to this but ill ask it anyway...you dont conciously move your left hip backward when going through the ball right? that is just a concequence of the hips turning to a certain degree...
Also Daryl, great post btw but could you please explain what you meant by ....This is an example of Homer Kelley's "Standard Hip Turn" modified by the "Right Anchor" "Knee Action".
Im still waiting for the book to come in the mail, and i checked out the new biography TGM, and it didnt give hardly any information. Thanks guys
Also Daryl, great post btw but could you please explain what you meant by ....This is an example of Homer Kelley's "Standard Hip Turn" modified by the "Right Anchor" "Knee Action".
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