Got in a quick 18 last night. I'm playing in bifocals, so I'm not keeping my head upright enough for my shoulders to turn right -- not the greatest ball striking night.
However, I hit a tee shot on the 181 yd par 3 17th that was the way I want to hit every shot. Powerful, effortless, ball mark two feet from the hole, high, hint of draw. Stroke was just like I planned -- hitter's stroke, from top, angled hinge, bacon strip divot, mind in hands, not even a whiff of flip.
I WANT THAT FEELING EVERY TIME!
I first picked up the game in college and I think I was a natural hitter (former athlete, good at most any sport I've picked up). My standard tee shot was a 3-wood of the ground. Just beat down hard and away it would go (cheap laminated real "wood" wood). I then read everything I could on golf and got the idea that we should swing around our spines (i.e. the hinge is there and not in the left shoulder). Further, I bought into the return to address position view. So my natural "swing" is a flip, and it can go pretty well if timed right...
Thank goodness for this group! Lynn, the DVD, the resources here, everyone else -- thank you. I've been working on my hitting stroke all summer (DVD only lately -- my advice to all is get it before you start!). It's coming -- I shot a 39 (with 2 balls OB). I'm actually looking forward to focusing on the drills when it's cold, because it is hard to monitor your actions in full swing mode.
Okay, enough confession...here's to compression -- may we all achieve it at will!
Brian, I'm with you 100%. I suspect nearly every person here thinks in a similar vein.
Compression is addicting. And, like you, since winter is almost here (Minn) I look forward to a lot of basica and acquired motion through the winter.
I can't get this idea out of my head that Flipping is an inherent result of "Swiveling" through Impact, and Hinging produces the opposite result. With Hinging, the more likely outcome would be a slightly Bowed Left Wrist.
I'm going to spend part of this Winter working toward more understanding of these two very different procedures.
Swiveling, in the general sense, seems to be about rotation about the Longitudinal Axis of the Club or Left Arm or Both, while Hinging is about Rotation about an axis perpendicular to an associated Plane, totally about sustaining the Lag. These are completely different types of Rotation. One is just as easy to apply as the other.
A Player cannot "Flip" with the #3 PP Dragging the Clubhead through Impact and Follow-through.
So Swiveling, in the general sense, as applied as an Impact Procedure will always Bend the Plane Line, while Hinging insists that the Clubhead Orbit remain undisturbed, thus not bending the Plane Line.
Brian, I am like you - a flipper for 42 years (I'm 55 now), that is, if I actually hit the ball. And also like you, I wear bifocals (very thick lenses too), but I don't need bifocals to look at the ball on the ground. But unlike you, I have yet to discover what true compression looks and feels like. I am not a long hitter at all (drives <200 yards and sliced, 8i 90 yards, pw 60 yards). I average 44 putts per round too. That all needs to change in 2011 big time.
I have KevCarter, JerryG and others helping me with Basic Motion right now. Even that is difficult to avoid throwaway (see my YouTube videos under jkpassage).
You are in the right place. While the information is often highly technical, just glean what you can and go from there.
Unfortunately, flipping isn't defined in the TGM definitions section. If it were, I guess it would be someting like: "Loss of lag pressure prior to impact due to a bent left wrist".
However
There are several relatives to this swing fault, that may or may not share both of the conditions. For instance:
The "false flip" A left wrist that is bent at address, impact and throughout the back swing, but where there is still lag pressure. As long as the shaft end of the club is pointing ahead of the swing center. Not the left shoulder, but the real swing center. This is a "good" partner to the swiveling that Daryl mentioned. In all other respects than the clubshaft being inline with the left arm, one could say that the left wrist is geometrically flat. I played with a bent left wrist for some two years. I used a weak grip and had the fastest acc#2 release I've ever had. The 5 iron went at least as long as today, only with the height of a full 9 iron. I hit everything high and with a slight draw. I could hold a cement green with the long irons and a pinnacle ball with that swing. I could hit a 1 iron out of light rough. But it was high mentenance and one spring when I took out the clubs it was gone.
The "punch flip". A left wrist that is still arched or flat at impact, but in a process of bending. There will still be lag pressure. One cold argue that this flip will work as a 5th accumulator, but there will be an unbalance in the rhythm that must be negotiated. I push hard on pp#1 & pp#3 through impact. If I don't keep the left side moving I get this kind of flip. There's still a lot of lag pressure, but the divot is deep and sometimes there isn't plenty of lag pressure
THe "break down" flip: A bent left wrist due to a vertical or angled hinge action in the hands. This is possibly the worst of them all and the one I suspect that Homer struggled with when he started golf. I certainly know I was fighting it for the first years as a golfer. But the mother of the power leak is that the whole left side gets disconnected and the "rope" gets loose.
The "swivel flip". (the one that Daryl brought forward) I associate that with a pure swing where you freewheel through the ball and sweep the grass. It can still produce good distance and decent result even though there is less lag pressure, less spin and a less penetrating ball flight.
PS Daryl,
I'm wondering whether the "swivel flip" pattern you talk about is the same animal that is being criticised in a few other fora as being the TGM swing.
A Player cannot "Flip" with the #3 PP Dragging the Clubhead through Impact and Follow-through.
Great points. I know I often get too wrapped up in watching angles when I know the whole point should be maintaining pressure. Thank you for the excellent reminder.
Kevin
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The "false flip" A left wrist that is bent at address, impact and throughout the back swing, but where there is still lag pressure. As long as the shaft end of the club is pointing ahead of the swing center. Not the left shoulder, but the real swing center.
Also excellent points Sir. Geometrically flat rather than the appearance of flat? You guys are wonderful contributors to our journey!
Kevin
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The "punch flip". A left wrist that is still arched or flat at impact, but in a process of bending. There will still be lag pressure. One cold argue that this flip will work as a 5th accumulator, but there will be an unbalance in the rhythm that must be negotiated. I push hard on pp#1 & pp#3 through impact. If I don't keep the left side moving I get this kind of flip. There's still a lot of lag pressure, but the divot is deep and sometimes there isn't plenty of lag pressure
I think this is my personal flip. With a little luck and timing, the ball still goes. BTW, I also have a nice sway that this all goes with -- probably a carryover from baseball. If all my timing is on, I can hit it pretty well. When it's not...
It was the desire to build a consistent swing this past spring that lead me here. I was trying to follow the Haney Essentials, but that was screwing my game up something fierce. I found video clip of Lynn and it just made sense to me. Now, I'm in need of drill time but want to play whatever time is left weather wise.
Like learning any physical activity, it's going to be in stages. I feel like I'm on the verge of breaking through to the next plateau and am looking forward to it!
Swiveling, in the general sense, seems to be about rotation about the Longitudinal Axis of the Club or Left Arm or Both, while Hinging is about Rotation about an axis perpendicular to an associated Plane, totally about sustaining the Lag. These are completely different types of Rotation. One is just as easy to apply as the other.
A Player cannot "Flip" with the #3 PP Dragging the Clubhead through Impact and Follow-through.
I feel like the "bad" swing image for me is the "around the spine" view of how the swing works rather than the low point opposite left should construct. If you view the center of the arc as your spine, the club head would pass the hands at mid body. (At least this is the geometry that I had in my head.) I was also taught to "throw" the barrel of the baseball bat versus pushing. Bad imagery of how leading to bad mechanics.
that Flipping is an inherent result of "Swiveling" through Impact, and Hinging produces the opposite result. With Hinging, the more likely outcome would be a slightly Bowed Left Wrist. 
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