LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Homers notes Thread: Homers notes View Single Post #12 09-08-2005, 02:03 PM 6bmike Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 1,605 I don't know about knees. You can swing with zero hip motion under some kind of condition. I do notice the difference in hip action with a Hogan flat swing and an upright Els type swing. Isn't that the difference Homer spoke of? mike 6bmike View Public Profile Send a private message to 6bmike Find all posts by 6bmike