LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Was Homer Wrong? Thread: Was Homer Wrong? View Single Post #18 06-26-2006, 08:50 PM golf_sceptic Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 34 Quote: now that we all understand the differences between CF & CP...which does not change the fact that there are forces acting...just definitions to clarify Got it in one! But the next time somebody claims centrifugal force powers anything you'll know what to say. It doesn't! The endless belt... I refer here only to a little video that seems to pop up regularly. It shows a model held in somebody's hand with the handle being turned and a series of little golf clubs moving along a straight section (of belt) and then around a curved section (of belt). The commentator points out how the little clubs whiz around the curved part. Now that's fine as far as it goes. Unfortunately that is also as far as the model validly goes. The little clubs do whiz around the end. Unfortunately the model does not show how the clubhead accelerates, or that CF throws the club out or anything else as is frequently claimed. For reference, here is what happens in the model. Firstly, for simplicity we assume that the handle is being turned at a constant rate. This in turn means that all parts of the belt are moving at a constant speed and so are the grip ends of all the little clubs. This has three results. 1. The clubheads are moving at a constant speed whilst the belt is on the flat. 2. The clubheads are moving at a higher but constant speed whilst the belt is on the curve. 3. The change in speed from lower to higher happens instantaneously (not gradually) when the belt changes shape from straight to curved. When the little club moves from the straight part to the curved part there will be quite a jolt to the little club and you would not want to try this in real life. It would be a bit like going over the pulleys when riding on a chairlift in the snow. In the model this is disguised by the general jerkiness involved in winding the handle whilst the model is held in the hand. As for my tone on arrival here, have a look at what you were saying in this thread prior to my contribution especially the "centrifugally powered golf swing" snideness and the person who decided to visit ISG to "tell us off", followed after my post by the mockery about the "force with no name". I make a contribution and get a straw man argument from one of the most knowledgeable teachers on the planet. It cuts both ways fellas. Fair's fair! Last edited by golf_sceptic : 06-26-2006 at 09:05 PM. golf_sceptic View Public Profile Send a private message to golf_sceptic Find all posts by golf_sceptic