LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Martin Hall on "the Golf Channel" Thread: Martin Hall on "the Golf Channel" View Single Post #18 11-01-2006, 12:40 PM Mike O Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oceanside CA Posts: 1,398 true swinging Originally Posted by lagster As I understand this... the description of BALL POSITION given on the clip as related to Hooking and Slicing, would mainly be true for TRUE SWINGERS. THERE IS ONE POINT FOR THEM WHERE THE CLUB IS SQUARE. They move the ball UP to Draw, and BACK to Fade. Many people, however, are HANDS MANIPULATED SWINGERS,which is not a bad thing. They usually move the ball BACK a little to DRAW. WHAT DO YOU THINK? That's right lagster- true swingers move the ball around without taking their hands off of the grip - to manuever the ball. Manipulated swingers would move the ball back for drawing, set the clubface say still facing the initial ball flight direction, then take their grip flv- essentially having a stronger grip-(that's why it's called "rotate the grip") then it's up to the golfer if they want to retain the square stance/body or adjust it to be closed so that their "powerpackage" has the same feel in relation to the body that they have for a straight shot. Last edited by Mike O : 11-01-2006 at 12:45 PM. Mike O View Public Profile Send a private message to Mike O Find all posts by Mike O