[nuke99]

For swinging,

there are constant debates, whether u do it with the right shoulder or left shoulder as a shoulder throw.

NOW, the reason we want to use a right shoulder is because, we want the right shoulder to Lag the left shoulder and the left shoulder to lag the arms.

Ie. the right shoulder will Stretch the whole Upper shoulder blades, and this stretched muscle will drag the arms. If this is thrown correctly, the PP4 will be felt. In another words, The pivot job is the throw One or both arms.. Using left shoulder throw ... is a bit tougher to stretch that torso.

For hitting, The right shoulder a backstop for a tricep thrust.. So the upper torso is not stretched. But the tricep muscle actively contract .

SO the shoulder throw have slightly different character to it due to slightly different role.

To answer your question, and its still an opinion , not expert opinion, Mike and Bagger might have a better explanation, I think it highly depends on which plane angle you use. The way i see it is to check it at Impact Fix, to see how the right forearm is inline with the shaft ( if u use elbow plane) or forearm below the shaft if its turned shoulder plane, That is the amount of Axis tilt you need in your shoulder. So, the shoulder need to tilt accordingly before ( thrusting) or turning ON PLANE.

The shoulder do not use aiming point as their job is to provide "thrust" by rotation.

only PP #3 uses aiming point and only use for it is Hitting, or snap release or a straight line. Which I personally do not think anybody should try it unless they already master the concept of sweep release. Personally, I can't perform aiming point for swinging but to trust the geometry of the circle and I am not losing any distance nor accuracy yet.. Doesn't mean I cannot do it yet that you can't, nor I won't keep trying

if that answers any of your question