[Jeff]

Pistol - you wrote-: "Now TT method of delivering the right hand and releasing against a firm left hand would make a lot more sense rather than the fiction you have stated. How many years you work on a golf swing JEff? Why do you seem to think that the TT concept is not correct after all he was at it for what 60+ years? ITs obvious that it would fit the criteria for the clubface being squared to the arc and the 3 right hands comment by the man himself."

You are free to find TT's idea of the right hand karate-chop throw action interesting and attractive. However, it's astonishing that you are willing to state that it fits in with Hogan's swing. You have provided no "evidence" to support that belief other than Hogan's statement that he wishes he had "three right hands". The reason why I find it astonishing is that you are ignoring Hogan's own statements regarding his swing. You are implying that Hogan utilised an active right arm karate-chop action from the very start of the downswing, thereby implying that the right arm is active when it is well above waist level. That factually-unsupported belief contradicts Hogan's own comments in his "Five Lessons" book.

On page 93 of his book, Hogan wrote-: "What do the hands do? The answer is they do nothing active until after the arms have moved on the downswing to a position just above the level of the hips. The arms don't propel this motion themselves. They are carried down by the movement of the hips". He then goes in the rest of that paragraph to describe how the hands and arms get this "free ride". He also demonstrates this "free ride" phenomenon in his swing video lesson.

In this lesson, Hogan demonstrates unequivocally how the arms/hands are brought passively down to hip level and how the right elbow is brought rapidly down to the right hip area solely as a result of his lower body move. He states unequivocally that this lower body action "brings one in a position to hit". This "hit position" occurs when Hogan's hands are well below waist level. Whatever Hogan meant by "three right hands", it must occur when his hands were in a "position to hit" and not at the start of the downswing - ala Tom Tomasello's description.

This is my last post that will be addressed to you. We live in parallel mental universes and we apparently cannot fruitfully interchange ideas. I am also tired of being subjected to your constant baiting and insults. This forum allows free discourse, and you are free to make insulting ad hominem comments, but I don't have to perpetuate your behaviour by personally responding to your posts.

Jeff.