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Old 06-16-2008, 07:47 PM
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Jeff, I am sorry that I constantly amaze you

In fact, you start to amaze me, too. First, for unknown reasons, you resist to try on yourself to check what I recommend you to do in order to verify if my feels are correct or not. FYI, the "shut face drill" is one of the best I know to learn proper pivot and proper impact position. Just try it and report back if you are able to hook the ball while trusting your subconscioussness.
When you are driving a car - do you think about pressing the gas pedal, changing gears or turning steering wheel ? If you really do I guarantee that you are much worse driver than this who has his thoughts in the clouds and lets his/her subconsciusness drive the car.

You also amaze me with lack of intuition. In your opinion, the natural release is a swivel action. Please spent more time with total beginners and you will learn that noone starts to hit the ball like Hogan (Cotton's push release) or Els (Cotton's crossover release), but they slap-hinge it (or, as you TGMers call it - flip), bent left wrist in urge to hit the ball in the air and chicken-winging. This is a natural way to release the club that does not mean the best. All other things (as proper pivot, flat left wrist, swivel, etc.) are educated things.
And, IMHO, you do not educate your hands - you educate your subconsciousness to not interefere with a technically proper way to hit the ball since the intuitive way is not good for many objective reasons (as e.g. not believing in loft of the club or not believing in body turn or not believing in proper CoG shift, etc.)
Now, imagine that everyone except Hogan did not educate their subconsciousness to not interfere with such a "strange" subject as opening/closing clubface concept is. And that is why only post-accident Hogan (not counting autistic Moe Norman) owned his swing and made it repeatable and consistent much more than everyone else did or does it. Try to look at the big picture - the best thing you can do in a golf swing is to minimize timing issues. Answer yourself what should a man equipped with main body and four distal parts (legs and arns) do in this matter. Hogan apparently succeded in minimizing timing issues in his swing - this was his key to success and I am trying to discover it by making my own mistakes and errors. The closing/squaring clubface issue is, IMHO, one of the most important, since the ball react to the contact with the clubface and what really matters is what angle the clubface is coming from, what angle does it have at contact, and at separation.
Until now, nobody succeded in finding Hogan's secret(s) - and that is why there are still no golfer who can be in Hogan's league as regards accuracy, consistency and repeatability of shots. Unfortunately, Mr.Kelley (as well as other instructors, swing analysers and coaches) also apparently failed since there are no TGM students who may be compared to Hogan in this sense.
Therefore, since Hogan took the majority of what he discovered to the grave, all avid Hogan fans should try to keep further in the dirt - and this is the difference between us, since you do not want to "dig in the dirt yourself" but prefer to concentrate on what is already written.
What I see is that Hogan's clubface is square to the arc for a longer time than all other players I had the pleasure to analyze. It's a fact for me. Moreover, the correlation between a square-to-the-arc clubface in the whole impact zone and minimizing timing issues is so convincing, that is hard to believe it can be a better way...if you know a better way - share your thoughts and I'd be the first to follow your advices immediately.
Now, I am trying all the time to learn how did he do this in the way it was almost automatic for him. That's why I am on serious golf fora, like here at Lynn's site. And, finally, this is why I am not rejecting any ideas, even those that appear to be very goofy at first sight.
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