LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Hogan - closing clubface Thread: Hogan - closing clubface View Single Post #8 06-18-2008, 08:27 PM Mike O Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oceanside CA Posts: 1,398 Originally Posted by Jeff I presume that you agree that a neutral grip will mean that the back of the left hand is parallel to the lower edge of the clubface (or lower clubface grooves if the lower clubface edge is rounded) - as demonstrated by Brian Manzella in this photo from an article that he wrote. Jeff. Jeff, I don't have the energy lately to post in detail on a lot of these subjects. You are usually pretty thorough about analyzing golf data. In regards to the photo above- the two yellow lines are parallel to each other - but do you really think that each one represents what it is suppose to represent? I see the leading edge or the equivalent score lines as not lining up with the yellow line. Also, likewise I don't see the yellow line representing the true angle of the left arm? Just camera angles etc. - obviously if someone wants to grip the way he describes it they certainly could. Regardless of all the details - that is a really weak grip. It appears that Brian Manzella via reading the linked article that you provided has derived that grip by associating it with Arnold Palmer, Tiger Woods, Sam Snead etc. and he has made that determination by noting that at the top of their swings the left wrist matches the angle of the leading edge of the clubface. All I can think of - there must be some poor measurements that were taken to come to that conclusion. To think that Sam Snead and Arnold Palmer had a flat left wrist and leading edge of the clubface that faced the target only at lowpoint- you're kidding me right? Arnold Palmer!? YOU'RE KIDDING ME right? __________________ Life Goal- Developing a new theory of movement based on Brain Science Interests - Dabbling with insanity Hobbies- Creating Quality Mike O View Public Profile Send a private message to Mike O Find all posts by Mike O