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Andy R,

Thanks for your input..No, I wasn't aware about the steeper plane angle and ball placement relationship...However it makes sense to me that the more tilted the tire is on the the ground, the more of the tire's circumference touches the ground..Now this brings up a question for Okie to see if his driver's low point is much further up plane than his 6" for his wedge...As I think I understand Okie, a 10" Air divot is probably not the case...

Mashie

The ball postion for the driver is further down plane. Low point is about two inches ahead...kinda off my left ear!

Yeah, we are probably at an empasse. Forgive my ethusiasm, but TGM taught me to put my own stroke pattern together. I am still tinkering. A method to me is a particular stroke pattern i.e. it has enough compatible components to work. Hal Sutton and co. were successful despite, not because of the methodology in question? I say if you can sway equally well in both directions go ahead and sway i.e. a compensation to overcome a move with no mechanical advantage. Example I do not think Tiger's knee would be jacked up if he kept his head at its impact fix position at startup (i.e. he stands too tall at address, has to squat to get back down and then torques the left knee coming out of the squat) Of course all of the options are available to him and he has figured out a way to get by!

There are three imperatives...how you achieve them is your own private golfing adventure. Swaying is not an imperative! The intent is not to be argumentative, but I feel that there is a real difference between TGM and the rest.