LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - The Dividing Line... Thread: The Dividing Line... View Single Post #149 12-02-2008, 12:55 PM Jeff Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Golfbulldog You wrote-: "From my own view, I think that you will find that the intention to move your right forearm as you describe causes an actual pivot motion which precedes your forearm motion". The question becomes - which body part moves first, and what reacts to what, and whether there is a biomechanical difference in the pivot action between Hogans' pivot-driven swing and TT's "right arm throw" swing". I sincerely believe that TT's "right arm throw" action is the same move that I make when I perform a stone skipping action starting with my right hand held at right shoulder level. When I start the action, my mind is definitely focused on my right hand/stone and the first conscious move is an adduction of the right arm towards the torso with the intention of bringing my right elbow down to its pitch position. Near simultaneously, I feel my lower torso move to the left as I replant weight onto my left foot. That lower torso move is not a conscious move, but an unconscious reactive move, and it occurs fractionally later than my right upper limb move. My description is very different to Hogan's description in this swing video. Hogan clearly states that he starts the downswing with a lower body move and he therefore makes no conscious attempt to pull his right elbow down to his right side. The right elbow moves reactively/secondarily to the lower body move. In other words, there is a biomechanical difference in the pivot-action of TT's "right arm throw" swing than Hogan's swing, although it may appear similar to the untrained eye. Jeff. Jeff View Public Profile Find all posts by Jeff