[12 piece bucket]

"I'm not sure this is a "true" top pic . . . it's startdown."


I think it is closer to top. Which is the point VJ makes in his book. He is over there before he starts down. Which does make it top. You can tell when you see the video, the shaft is not stressed yet when his lower body is already shifted.
So he get its over there, then starts down. I believe Vj has the sequence correct.

Maybe . . . .

But what I will say is IF Hogan has created proverbial "PIE" at Top (which I'm not sure he has by strict definition) . . . he HAS NOT DONE IT by moving his head off the ball like some sort of Jimmy Ballard type move.

IF he makes it . . . it's because his hips went forward at some point NOT because his upper body went right.

AND again . . . . you can find swings were Hogan doesn't do that move in the backstroke.

But the thread was about Hula Hula . . . . Hogan's head doesn't "load" right much typically but his hips do go right and then back left again . .. and then they continue going left as much as anybody that has laced 'em up. . . . HULA HULA.