LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Pivot center Thread: Pivot center View Single Post #7 12-16-2008, 06:34 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by Jeff KOC This is Jason Zubacks' secondary axis tilt and head position at impact. Jeff. Jeff If you were to consider this photo impact for a moment and draw a line from Z's left shoulder down to the clubhead you could argue that this is a new low point line given his shoulder tilt. In that manner he could be said to be still hitting down and out! This is what I was referring to when I mentioned the artificial up hill shot. You disregard the flat ground and artificially set up as if going uphill to launch the ball high. You need to make some adjustments so as not to bottom out early in the oh so real flat earth however. There was another Canadian prior to Z who in the age of persimmon would tee a ball on a golf pencil for height, and then tilt way way back. Twenty years ago or so my buds and I would call this a Kelley Murray shot as we took our 10 degree persimmons over the tree tops on dog legs. Down wind it was a go to shot. The advent of metal drivers, that are so "just tee it up and hit and it will be ok" has taken away the need for most specialty shots off the tee. The high hook in a right to left wind that added 30 yards, the teed low heeled cut shot on a tight hole etc etc etc. Jeff I should point out however that if you buy the "new low point" (NLP) you should in fairness also draw a line down from Z's head parallel to the NLP line. You will find it to be centered in his Imaginary new stance line ("INSL"). A new and centralized pivot center. Thanks to Daryl and Jeff Hull for their "spirited" discussion on this and Hip Action in the Trophy Room of the Atlanta Country Club. Make that "wines and spirits". Come back, Daryl, we miss ya. O.B. Last edited by O.B.Left : 12-16-2008 at 06:37 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left