LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Pivot center Thread: Pivot center View Single Post #233 12-23-2008, 09:00 AM KOC Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 273 Originally Posted by Jeff I have produced a 2 minute swing video lesson on "what powers a swinger's golf swing". If you understand this simple double pendulum swing model demonstration, then you will understand what powers the golf swing in a swinger's action. Consider what I have demonstrated. One powers the golf swing by moving the left arm (central arm) in a circular manner. That "cause" produces an "effect". The "effect" is the circular motion of the left wrist/hand (peripheral hinge joint) in space. That "effect" becomes a "causal agent" with respect to releasing the club ("effect"). The circular movement of the left wrist/hand in space causes the release of the club. If you understand what I have stated, there are only two possible causative agents in this sequence. 1) The left arm moves in a circular manner (due to the release of PA#4). It produces an effect - the circular motion of the left wrist/hand in space. 2) The left wrist/hand unit moves in a circular manner in space. It produces an effect - the release of the club. The club release phenomenon is an "effect" and not a cause. I therefore think that it is nonsensical to state that an "effect" drives the golf club (via the lag pressure point at PP#3). Note that I don't need to use the word centripetal or centrifugal in my description of "how the golf swing is powered" in a swinger's action. I certainly think that it is nonsensical to believe that a centripetal force is necessary to "conserve speed and store energy". Jeff. Jeff, What if I want NOT to release the club so soon with circular hand path? __________________ If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two! Last edited by KOC : 12-23-2008 at 09:10 AM. KOC View Public Profile Send a private message to KOC Find all posts by KOC