[O.B.Left]

This is almost a counter intuitive deal . . . . for the hands to stay on plane without a plane shift out . . . there HAS TO BE LATERAL MOVEMENT. Keep in mind the plane that a top spins on is a Horizontal Plane . . . . our basic plane is inclined . . . so for the hands to stay IN on the way down you have to tilt your axis . . . we're trying to move the hands in a circle . . . not necessarily the pivot. Lateral is a big deal interms of plane and circle.

Bucket, Im struggling with this one a little. The vertical vs inclined plane thing seems great, please elaborate.

Does this relate to CF throwing the hands to a position that is OUT irrespective of the inclined plane? Cool. Is this what you mean? The science behind the need for axis tilt, the on plane right shoulder and therefore the hands all from a lateral hip slide action?

You're deep dude.

"I gots to know". (Dirty Harry)

OB