LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - How Do I Start the Club Back? Thread: How Do I Start the Club Back? View Single Post #51 05-04-2009, 11:19 AM Daryl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521 Originally Posted by O.B.Left Apres vous , Daryl, but of course. I saw your post today in the Drag The Wet Mop thread and it reminded me of this enticing cliff hanger here. Man if you get Startup right everything just flows, eh? On the other hand some days I feel like Im fighting my body. If I can just crack this Elbow Magic code.............. Did you see Sean O'hare on the weekend? Not a lot of elbow bend on him and as you mentioned a very upright plane to match accordingly. So what gives one the instant "up" then? I can see fanning and the pivot giving you the "back" and "in". In your other post (you should move it here , its very interesting) you mentioned Extensor Action as lifting the club up , I think. I thought EA shouldnt move the club? Which leaves us with 'bending" I guess. I note you didnt mention bending above. What you got against elbow bending anyways? I used to have a frozen right elbow and right hip too, covered the plane, lifted the club up with my hands, cocked both my wrists ..............ouch. Im happy to automate much of my new swing with a bending right elbow. Hey we did some elbow bending in Atlanta eh? Remember. Didnt bother you intellectually then! Move your post over here, its inspired. A total rewrite of the book, but inspired. You are learned and so I differ to your inspiration until I am presented with a more sane explanation. Which hopefully will come very soon. I have a noon tee off time and need to know. Cheers Ob http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/a...d=124144766 1 Dear Pivot controlled Hands Player and friend, O.B. Do not pivot at start-up. The Bend in your right elbow at Impact Fix allows your right forearm to lay on the plane. You have more bend than I because you use a Punch Elbow position. So you can only arrive at release on the elbow plane. A steeper Plane Angle would require a Pitched Elbow. Your Right Forearm Pick-up, Start-up, is the exact upward angle of your Right Forearm at Impact Fix (using only your Right Deltoid Muscles). For you, I guess, from 7am to 2pm. Elbow Plane. Have someone stand in front of you while you assume Impact Fix. Tell them to superimpose a Clock-face over your right forearm. Ask them to stand to your right and tell you if you followed that angle on your backstroke. That’s the direction that your right shoulder moves your bent right arm to the top your swing. Do not bend or unbend your right arm any more or less until Release. Your Right Shoulder and Left arm (Check-rein) will control your Right elbow position throughout the entire stroke. And your Right Forearm will be ON-Plane at Release. The MAGIC is that because your right arm is bent a certain amount, that the extensor action take-away can only move your hands at the precise angle required because the checkrein won't allow any other plane angle. COOL. The Punch Elbow, is a location. The elbow goes straight to the ball from release to impact (because your body is rotating, you just and only need to thrust straight), but your hand traces an arc. Regards, from a Hand Controlled Pivot Player, Daryl __________________ Daryl Last edited by Daryl : 05-04-2009 at 11:27 AM. Daryl View Public Profile Send a private message to Daryl Find all posts by Daryl