LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - hogan on the Ed Sullivan Show Thread: hogan on the Ed Sullivan Show View Single Post #19 08-11-2009, 11:16 AM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by Daryl I think if you're tracing the Plane line and the Pivot is responding to that, then the #3 PP maintains its relationship to the plane line. Hands Controlled Pivot. I like this. Going down everyone would agree, Hands to Pivot, although the Pivot powers the power package. Going back is where peoples opinions differ. If the pivot provides some power in addition to or prior to RFT even in startup but the #3 is still tracing, your statement still holds true to my thinking. Hands to Pivot. In essence if you are Tracing , Hands to Pivot. A Lagging Takeaway in particular, I find, needs the pivots help to power the initial move away from the ball. A pure Carry Back motion wouldnt need it as much. The Physics of getting the pivot going early is not a requisite maybe, for some, depends on your motion. Im thinking the more Hogan like you are the more you need to do it. The more Rope Handle, the more you swing from the feet maybe. But everyone needs to pre clear the right hip for geometric reasons. see 12-3-0 I personally subscribe to the right hip clearing actually moving the clubhead a touch prior to the RFT assuming a lightly soled, hung set of Flying Wedges with a level left wrist. The perfect start to a Lagging Takeaway. You need the no tension, homeostatic, hanging set of wrists though. Like Hogans two pistols. Dang I was so happy Hitting and then I started watching the Hogan in Mexico video every night .................. his Rope Handle motion is so beguiling. http://media.photobucket.com/player....fs=1&os=1&ap=1 Last edited by O.B.Left : 08-11-2009 at 11:00 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left