[KevCarter]

Thanks Kev, great answer.

If I understand this correctly, the shoulder turn is a flatter one in which the right shoulder traces the tsp into impact.

I'm confused on what is bold.


10-13-B FLAT
This is a relatively flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn which places the Shoulder “On Plane” for any Plane Angle with a flatter angle than the Rotated Shoulder Angle. A Flat Down-stroke Shoulder Turn can serve only to impact a circular motion to the Stroke, but almost irresistibly “Off Plane.”

10-13-D ON PLANE
After a 13-B or 13-C Backstroke Shoulder Turn, the Right Shoulder moves toward Impact precisely on the preselected Down-stroke Clubshaft Plane, establishing and supporting the Power Package Delivery alignments. When the Shoulder can’t quite reach the Plane, it is better to use a steeper Plane.

I think that is an endorsment by Mr. Kelley for using the TSP. I believe what he meant is that he feels a straight line delivery to the aiming point is the simplest procedure, and you can't do it from the elbow plane. Hence, better to use the steeper TSP where the right shoulder can travel down the plane line.

I think Bucket is correct, as always, the elbow plane procedure includes a lot more #3, possibly why folks like Mr. Gay aren't super long, but perhaps also why Brian is so solid and consistent.

My opinion is the TSP with straight line delivery in a hitting procedure is incredibly easy to master.

I could be completely wrong...

There are lots of great ways to get 'er done, but TSP is what I am loving right now. No disrespect to Mr. Bucket.

Kevin