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bottom line . . . assuming you hit the ball on the sweetspot . . . the ball STARTS where the face is looking essentially . . . so if it's starting left . . . it's because the face is looking over there.

Try having the face looking left at address . . . if you push the handle forward (shaft lean) the face vector looks more and more right . . . soooooo same concept at the top. If you get it shut at the top you have to get shaft lean so the face will look right enough to either start at the target or right of it.

So you can do a few things to get the face to pull the ball left

1. STATIC - set up with it LOOKING OVER THERE
2. Backstroke/Downstroke - do something whacky with your wrist conditions that shuts the face (with your grip a visually flat left wrist will do it . . . unless you get it open at address to compensate)
3. Downstroke - do something that makes your forearms ROLL (hand action) that will get the face closing fast and give you potential for a face pull (via - well actively rolling, stalling the pivot, hanging back, shifting the plane to the right)

I don't really like that rolling deal your being told by some folks . . . as she goes back she tends to come down . . . if you get it shut we sure don't need you rolling the face MORE. Even though you do it right in the drill . . . can you play golf like that?

If your grip is gonna be turned . . . you need to learn how your wedge is going to look to keep it in line and not shut. Grip it like you normally do . . . and just pick the club up in a vertical fashion like you were gonna hammer the ground in a vertical plane. If you don't do some whackjob move your wrist should cock AND BEND with your grip. So it's the same concept with golf . . . you're just doing the same hammering motion ON AN INCLINED PLANE. The left arm flying wedge is geometric . . the shaft and the arm shoud be IN LINE . . . so with a turned grip your wrist will BEND AND COCK to maintain that relationship . . . do it on a vertical plane . . . you'll see how it works.

So anyhow . . . again the question becomes . . can you play golf doing that? Who knows . . .

So you need to experiment . . .

1. Does rolling work? Maybe I don't like that one though
2. Learn to bend and cock your wrist with your grip? Could work
3. Keep the same grip and just open the face? Pretty easy.
4. Learn to lean the shaft better . . . can have ball flight implications with the long clubs . . see lee buck.
5. Change your grip some . . . a grip can be like a wife to some . . . cheaper to keep her.

That's how I seez it anyhow. But Hey . . . I got the same issue . . . still trying to figure it out. But those are the options according to Hucklebuckle.