LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Does CF left unbridled naturally produce an Over Roll? Thread: Does CF left unbridled naturally produce an Over Roll? View Single Post #7 12-14-2009, 03:59 PM Daryl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521 OB Said: There has been a suggestion in some circles that Swinging and CF will cause a natural over roll of the Hands and clubface through the shot. That therefore Swinging requires constant monitoring and practice to deal with this over roll tendency. Quote: Some players even intentionally execute Impact as exclusively a Swivel, making Clubface alignments extremely fleeting and erratic. Study 3-F-7-B and 7-20. OB Said: I believe that while it is common for a good golfer to display this over roll, or over swivel tendency, its not a display of the effects of unbridled CF but rather an interruption to CF. That the forces that cause the over Roll are created by the golfer not by CF. OB Said: Some have even mistakenly described this over Roll as representing Horizontal Hinging, which it clearly does not. An over Roll is way past Horizontal. Hit the search function if you need clarification but HH is a holding of the Left Wrist perpendicular to the Horizontal Basic Plane, the ground say. You answered your own question. OB Said: Worse still to my mind is the oft prescribed fix by way of a "hold off" to Release, which is Steering, Golfs first Snare according to Homer. Correct this over roll by learning a Hinge Action but try a properly aligned Horizontal in addition to Angled and dont hold anything off. Hold Off? One needs to Learn to Hold the Wrist Vertical to its associated Basic Plane through Impact to at least Both Arms Straight. Also per 2-G BASIC PLANES AND HINGING "........And always with a Flat Left Wrist vertical to its asscociated Basic Plane. "Over Roll" or "Under Roll" of the Left Wrist--NOT VERTICAL--puts the Swingle out of line with the Handle (Sketch 2-K) as much as does any other form of Clubhead Throwaway." You answered your question again. GP Styles Said: would that support Lag Erickson's view that a FLW is like a vapour trail from a jet plane ie that the FLW is a byproduct and cannot be forced? That's gibberish. gmbtempe Said: what is the opinion of the left wrist rolling counter clockwise through the impact, That's a "Kind" of Swivel, it's not a Hinge. and that this rolling is critical for the swinger to maintain a flat left wrist and clubhead throwaway? No. Swingers can use Vertical Hinge too, which is a Clockwise rotation, and still maintain a Flat Left Wrist. Last edited by Daryl : 12-14-2009 at 04:15 PM. Daryl View Public Profile Send a private message to Daryl Find all posts by Daryl