LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Does CF left unbridled naturally produce an Over Roll? Thread: Does CF left unbridled naturally produce an Over Roll? View Single Post #19 12-15-2009, 06:25 PM Daryl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521 Originally Posted by slicer mcgolf I have spoken with lag on a few occasions about how the wrist becomes aligned as Flat when the pivot is driving hard. He has awesome ideas on this and the 'self proclaimed' tgm expert is only from the fact the Mr doyle taught him for many years. Daryl, I was also following the thread on lag's site where you 2 didn't see eye to eye. I respected both sides of that debate. I also have reviewed everything in the forums (all three forums including Lag's, Iseekgolf and Sevam1) and I'm familiar with the procedure. I don't doubt the Physics or geometry of the procedure but I do caution about its efficacy and its reliance on changing significant components of the golf swing to apply the procedure and then having to adopt a different stroke pattern for approach and chip shots. Additionally, Lag bends the Left Wrist and he needs "A Way" to Flatten it before Impact. Whether it's done his way or any one of a dozen other ways, TGM says that if one acquires the FLW during Start-up you'll have it for Impact. How simple is that? One of the most significant contributions of the Golfing Machine is being able to use the same stroke pattern throughout the game by reducing or zero-ing out components rather than adopting 5 different swings to play one round of Golf. It's not the "Long Ball" syndrome; more muscle equals distance. TGM means more Pressure equals more power. You're too kind in calling that "schizophrenic clash" a debate. It was about the "Stationary head" as I recall. Or was it about debunking TGM and it's adherents? I requested that GPStyles start a new thread in the "Lab". That way, we can ask him questions and he can explain the Physics and Procedures. But, I can understand why he doesn't feel up to the task. Obviously, he fears supporting a point of view in which he lacks sufficient knowledge, otherwise he wouldn't need to resort to personal attacks on me (naturally unsubstantiated) for lack of a better cause. Last edited by Daryl : 12-15-2009 at 08:31 PM. Daryl View Public Profile Send a private message to Daryl Find all posts by Daryl