LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - starting down for swingers Thread: starting down for swingers View Single Post #11 01-27-2010, 05:29 PM EdZ Lynn Blake Certified Instructor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Linn, OR Posts: 1,645 Originally Posted by JulesC Hi folks, My first post. I am a serious low handicap golfer finally looking to take my game to the next level and get back to being a competitive golfer. i have had lots of lessons from distinguished teachers but only recently have found my way working with an authorized Golfing Machine instructor. I do have one question about which I am not sure I have found an answer. From the top/end to start the downswing as a swinger I of course bump the left hip and sit down and tilt simultaneously. I don't do anything with my arms. My right shoulder drops on plane and begins to point along the plane line. so far so good. What I don't get is the connection between this 'move' which seems right and two other ideas that don't seem compatible with it. The first is the idea of a quick move to start the downswing which appears both in TGM and in Lynn Blake's video. The second and related idea is that the right shoulder creates a flywheel movement which helps the inert left arm separate from PP#4 and releases the associated power accumulator. I think of a flywheel as an outward motion, yet the right shoulder motion i am taught is both slow and down. I need some clarification including whether these two conceptions which seem conflicting to me are in fact compatible. Thanks, Jules As mentioned, it is the loading of PP#4 that the quick move creates because the lower body is starting the downswing as the upper body is still going back. To get the feel of really 'throwing' the arms off the chest, make some swings focusing on the right shoulder moving aggressivly toward the ball, while having 'rag limp' arms. You can simulate the feel of PP#4 loading on the horizontal plane, throwing a frisbee. You can get a great feel for it if you have someone hold your hand as you try to turn back through/throw, even better to do this with a club and have someone pull the club at halfway down. Stretch bands on the horizontal plane work great as well. Another thing to keep in mind is that the more you have your weight fully on the left leg before the hips turn, the more fully you can load #4 (or at least it sure feels that way in my case). __________________ "Support the On Plane Swinging Force in Balance" "we have no friends, we have no enemies, we have only teachers" Simplicity buffs, see 5-0, 1-L, 2-0 A and B 10-2-B, 4-D, 6B-1D, 6-B-3-0-1, 6-C-1, 6-E-2 Last edited by EdZ : 01-27-2010 at 05:32 PM. EdZ View Public Profile Send a private message to EdZ Find all posts by EdZ