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Old 03-09-2010, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by plgolfer View Post
I have been struggling with this concept for a while now... When I try to cock the left wrist with the right elbow, the fleshy pad of my left thumb slides down approx an inch from the cup in my right hand. To maintain the snug fit of fleshy pad of left hand in the cup of my right hand without cocking the right wrist, I have to rotate both forearms slightly anti clockwise. Is that ok?

Thanks OB for your very valuable posts in this forum.

Paul


Bernt is feeling it Id say. Love his last sentence there and think that is the tremendous simplicity and efficiency that a Hitter feels (assuming he starts from Fix). He just maintains those Impact Hands and takes them up and down a Plane without much thought to Left Wrist Cock or Right Hand bending. The Swinger who never goofs with Hitting will have a tough time discovering or understanding the tremendous advantage of the frozen right wrist (and getting to both arms straight but thats another story).

Swingers or Hitters who starts back from Adjusted Address, Mid Body Hands have to go from a Bent Left/Flat Right set of hands to Impact Hands dynamically. Which isnt easy to find. You only want the amount of Right Wrist Bend you prescribed at Fix , no more, no less. Each ball position will be different right. I found out the hard way that its not a "the more the better " thing with the bending Right Hand. An over Bending of the Right Hand at Top will often arch the Left! Grip type can really contribute to this predicament. Especially if you tend to an neutral Left , strong Right grip which I did, now Ive got my Right Hand on top a bit and no amount of over bending the Right Hand could by itself arch the Left Hand.

I believe one of Homers biggest obstacles was that a great golf swing often appears to be more rubber wristed than it actually is. Its hard to adopt structure (longer levers) for instance when you think Hogan had "loose wrists" or something. Mention something like that in front of Lynn and run for cover, baby. "There isnt anything LOOSE about it". "The universal joint may be free to move in certain ways but it is NOT LOOSE IN ANY WAY" etc etc. And he has one nice Snap Release and some serious #2 Angle on him, Lynn does. I made that mistake one time, Luke was there and he was just grinning from ear to ear at me as Lynn started to get all fired up. Structure was a tough sell for Homer a lot of times. I have a feeling there is a long lineage of students who get that lesson. From Homers first A.I.s all the way on down. Homer was very resolute about it to say the least. I can however honestly say that my bad spells can still be attributed to searching out #2 angle the wrong way. Dont tell LYnn please. That #2 Angle is just so dang beautiful, I cant help myself sometimes. Sort of like Ulysses and the Sirens.............yes two Homers each with their own Sirens. The original ones were beautiful and beguiling songstresses, Mr Kelley's were rubber wristed. Both of em will kill you.

Plgolfer, do you mean your Left Thumb extends as you cock the Left Wrist? There is a photo of Hogan at Top where his Left Thumb is shockingly long. Some say it has extended during the swing, some say his Left Thumb wasnt as short at Address as he maintained. So, its hard to say whats going on for you without seeing it. Maybe your Left Hand is trying to get a better place? A place it wants to be. Or maybe not? To see where it should be, where its strongest try hitting shots with just your left Hand on the club and see what grip you adopt automatically or try bending the shaft against a door frame or some immovable object. Your grip (and a bunch of other alignments) will morph into a good position. That left thumb wants to be on the aft at Impact! Mine does, but it also wants to be on top of the shaft at address for some reason. It still fears the left side of the fairway that thumb of mine, its conflicted, despite the fact I hit fades now.

The thing about the Magic of the Right Forearm, 7-3 for me was that in order for the bending right elbow to get all of that tremendous list of stuff done, bring all that simplification to the party, ...........I had to turn off all of my old ways. Those are hard switches to find let alone turn off. Itll take some work and each of us has a different list of old ways. For me, some went all the way back to my earliest golf years. My list included .......Left Side pushaway, hand rolling under plane with an arched left hand (that wont want to cock), "rocking the triangle".... two straight arms going back with the right elbow locked, lifting the arms with the arms etc etc the list is long and still being compiled. I had to remove these blockages, these actions, to avoid the conflict of actions, to simplify, to see glimpses of the Magic Homer refers to. Search out things that prevent your Right Elbow from Bending, "on its own" as Bernt said. That would be good first place to check.

Keep working on it. It'll make more sense as you get further into it.

Last edited by O.B.Left : 03-10-2010 at 02:01 AM.
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