Cough, Cough.....
If I may rudely interrupt..
Way back at post #1 in this thread I was trying to riddle the use of VJ's dowel drill which he calls "high School Hips".. "we" may have concluded that failure of his test ain't always and for everyone BAD. But I do fail the test and I do think it is a "MESS-UP" that I should try and change. BUT, I do fear it may be a pyrrhic victory.
Cough, Cough.....
If I may rudely interrupt..
Way back at post #1 in this thread I was trying to riddle the use of VJ's dowel drill which he calls "high School Hips".. "we" may have concluded that failure of his test ain't always and for everyone BAD. But I do fail the test and I do think it is a "MESS-UP" that I should try and change. BUT, I do fear it may be a pyrrhic victory.
The Bear again.
I think the Drill will bring instant improvement. It forces you to keep the Hips from sliding too far left and especially forward. The Pivot should maintain its posture. Losing waist/hip bend (Standing up) during the down-stroke forces the right shoulder to flatten and go off plane.
You want Hula-Hula flexibility, not hula hoop Hips. I think the Ben Doyle Drill teaches all of it.
Hi MB66. The amount of Hip Slide needed to keep the Right Shoulder On plane differs. I don't know about the Turn part of it. Great question.
Would the elbow plan swinger need greater hip rotation through impact than the TSP???
Not D but I play him on TV.
Im thinking an Elbow Plane guy probably has a really strong sense of turning, Pivoting through the shot, a strong sense for the #4 pp , he's Arc of Approach, Wheel Rim, maybe has a feel for some rolling of #3 angle too. So yeah, Hip turn and feel for sure Id say. One Hip turn though, not two firings or whatever.
I know there's a really popular teacher who advocates swinging left on the Elbow Plane, a refiring of the hips and using the Angle of Approach but .....arent those kinda mutually exclusive? How do you get your clubhead to go out to right field and swing left at the same time? How do you see a wheel track on the elbow plane unless your eyeballs are in your elbow? How do you re fire the Hips? Even if you could re fire them , could they get in front of the Shoulders and start to pull them again?
Sorry for the digression .......Daryl brings back a lot of misty water color memories.
Im guilty of that too. Maybe all us Homerites are to varying degrees? It aint easy.
Such is the price of genius, Daryl. Galileo was tried and found guilty of heresy for things we now consider common knowledge as well. Just like you buddy. I see no difference , he was a Sox fan too. Which in retrospect is maybe why they fried him.
A huge Hawks fan, he is said to have worn a Makita jersey to his inquisition. Gotta love the guy for that.
Tell me, OB, would they, could they? Or, has time re-written every line? You know, it don't come easy. But you've got to pay your dues if you want to sing the blues.
Babs, was a great singer despite her politics, IMHO. Ringo was more my speed.
Pat
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
Im guilty of that too. Maybe all us Homerites are to varying degrees? It aint easy.
Such is the price of genius, Daryl. Galileo was tried and found guilty of heresy for things we now consider common knowledge as well. Just like you buddy. I see no difference , he was a Sox fan too. Which in retrospect is maybe why they fried him.
A huge Hawks fan, he is said to have worn a Makita jersey to his inquisition. Gotta love the guy for that.
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Im thinking an Elbow Plane guy probably has a really strong sense of turning, Pivoting through the shot, a strong sense for the #4 pp , he's Arc of Approach, Wheel Rim, maybe has a feel for some rolling of #3 angle too. So yeah, Hip turn and feel for sure Id say. One Hip turn though, not two firings or whatever.
I know there's a really popular teacher who advocates swinging left on the Elbow Plane, a refiring of the hips and using the Angle of Approach but .....arent those kinda mutually exclusive? How do you get your clubhead to go out to right field and swing left at the same time? How do you see a wheel track on the elbow plane unless your eyeballs are in your elbow? How do you re fire the Hips? Even if you could re fire them , could they get in front of the Shoulders and start to pull them again?
Sorry for the digression .......Daryl brings back a lot of misty water color memories.
I think the swing left deal equals on plane. To keep the sweet spot on plane the feeling would be swing left to players that swing right. The only way to really understand the plane is do what Homer did. Build a plane board.
Ringo was more my speed.
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