Would the elbow plan swinger need greater hip rotation through impact than the TSP???
Not D but I play him on TV.
Im thinking an Elbow Plane guy probably has a really strong sense of turning, Pivoting through the shot, a strong sense for the #4 pp , he's Arc of Approach, Wheel Rim, maybe has a feel for some rolling of #3 angle too. So yeah, Hip turn and feel for sure Id say. One Hip turn though, not two firings or whatever.
I know there's a really popular teacher who advocates swinging left on the Elbow Plane, a refiring of the hips and using the Angle of Approach but .....arent those kinda mutually exclusive? How do you get your clubhead to go out to right field and swing left at the same time? How do you see a wheel track on the elbow plane unless your eyeballs are in your elbow? How do you re fire the Hips? Even if you could re fire them , could they get in front of the Shoulders and start to pull them again?
Sorry for the digression .......Daryl brings back a lot of misty water color memories.
Im guilty of that too. Maybe all us Homerites are to varying degrees? It aint easy.
Such is the price of genius, Daryl. Galileo was tried and found guilty of heresy for things we now consider common knowledge as well. Just like you buddy. I see no difference , he was a Sox fan too. Which in retrospect is maybe why they fried him.
A huge Hawks fan, he is said to have worn a Makita jersey to his inquisition. Gotta love the guy for that.
Tell me, OB, would they, could they? Or, has time re-written every line? You know, it don't come easy. But you've got to pay your dues if you want to sing the blues.
Babs, was a great singer despite her politics, IMHO. Ringo was more my speed.
Pat
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
Im guilty of that too. Maybe all us Homerites are to varying degrees? It aint easy.
Such is the price of genius, Daryl. Galileo was tried and found guilty of heresy for things we now consider common knowledge as well. Just like you buddy. I see no difference , he was a Sox fan too. Which in retrospect is maybe why they fried him.
A huge Hawks fan, he is said to have worn a Makita jersey to his inquisition. Gotta love the guy for that.
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Im thinking an Elbow Plane guy probably has a really strong sense of turning, Pivoting through the shot, a strong sense for the #4 pp , he's Arc of Approach, Wheel Rim, maybe has a feel for some rolling of #3 angle too. So yeah, Hip turn and feel for sure Id say. One Hip turn though, not two firings or whatever.
I know there's a really popular teacher who advocates swinging left on the Elbow Plane, a refiring of the hips and using the Angle of Approach but .....arent those kinda mutually exclusive? How do you get your clubhead to go out to right field and swing left at the same time? How do you see a wheel track on the elbow plane unless your eyeballs are in your elbow? How do you re fire the Hips? Even if you could re fire them , could they get in front of the Shoulders and start to pull them again?
Sorry for the digression .......Daryl brings back a lot of misty water color memories.
I think the swing left deal equals on plane. To keep the sweet spot on plane the feeling would be swing left to players that swing right. The only way to really understand the plane is do what Homer did. Build a plane board.
I think the swing left deal equals on plane. To keep the sweet spot on plane the feeling would be swing left to players that swing right. The only way to really understand the plane is do what Homer did. Build a plane board.
I have built both a plane board and a PVC plane rail.
The board is simple. A 4x8 sheet 1/2" covered foam insulation. Cut a 30" radius center-edge. Adjust with 2 48" driveway markers for angle desired. < $7 cost.
Rail is 2 10' lengths 2" pvc (grey) electrical conduit, 2ea. 2" PVC (white) DWV (pluming-drain) "T's" and 90*'s . cut one 10' into stand pieces and cut molded coupling off one 10' to fit fittings. No glue, friction fit, assemble when using. $10-$12 cost.
Good and Bad points.
Good- gives a clearand different view of swing
Bad- Both promote a tendency to try for a sweep release so the shaft rides on the plane. You have to overcome this tendency or U are doing nothing.
ALSO- ( I do things on the EDGE so these are my "damages") I have nicked the plane board low/right between release and impact- only during swinging [only use Irons]. I think this is hossel hitting board at swivel because sweet spot trys to stay on plane so hossel goes underplane.
I quickly smashed the rail and had to replace because after a few swings I tried a metal wood. The good thing was I hit the bar less than a club length behind the ball . SO remember a metal wood has a big protrusion below plane before swivel. Irons don't do this so not an off plane movement.
The Bear
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Ringo was more my speed.
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