LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Supination - but without closing the club face? Thread: Supination - but without closing the club face? View Single Post #4 05-05-2010, 09:46 PM 12 piece bucket Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 4,380 Originally Posted by wewer I've been working on supinating my left wrist to help avoid breaking down at impact. I've been using a Tac Tic as feedback to insure that the left wrist remains flat. The problem is that my effort to supinate is leading to a severely closed clubface at impact. I'm following Hogan's suggestion of turning the left palm up at impact per his instructions in Five Lessons. So while I'm getting improved lag and compressing the ball well at impact, the shot pattern reveals a ball flight that is initially straight, but hooks significantly at the end of the shot. Any advice? BE CAREFUL WITH THAT STUFF MAN . . . Note that Hogan double cocked his left wrist (bent and cocked) and the clubface was pretty OPEN at the top . . . he had a fairly weak grip (probably not as weak as some would like to think) . . . had really flat clubs bent open . . . and swung on the elbow plane. So . . . if your ball is starting straight then the face is pretty much SQUARE at impact and you are swinging right of it to get the hook spin . . . if you are doing that arching you are likely hitting a low ball as well . . . have a look at the rate at which your face is closing . . . probably fast if you are taking the Hogan pill . . . If you want that ball to start right of the target and draw back to it . . . you better get the face OPEN more. I'd suggest leaving that supination alone . . . work on your pivot and learn how the left wrist works. THE LEFT WRIST WORKS IN A HAMMERING MOTION . . . IF YOU ARCH . . . YOU CAN'T HAMMER. Isolate your left wrist . . . lift the clubhead up by cocking your left wrist in a vertical plane like you were going to hammer a nail into the ground vertically. That's how your left wrist works . . . that is the left forearm flying wedge . . . note if your grip is turned you will hammer and your wrist will bend and cock to keep the shaft in line with the left arm . . . that is RHYTHM . . . if you are UNCOCKING there is NO IMPETUS TO FLIP . . . YOU DON"T NEED THAT ARCHY STUFF. Another thing is learn to pivot with proper geometry . . . don't move your head around . . . make sure that your left shoulder is far enough forward that you don't have to do some whacky stuff to get low point infront of the ball. If you are pivoting in a way that you can sustain the pivot lag and get your rotation going . .. you won't throw the club away . . . tie that in with an understanding of how the left wrist works (left arm flying wedge with it's rhythm . . .) you won't need to worry about that supination stuff. Hogan may have done that supination stuff . . . but the bottom line is his pivot was so dynamic and he swung so much on plane that all that stuff happened . . . do you think with all that accumulator lag he was trying to hold on to the lag? HECK NO!!! He set a lot of angle . . . AND HE RELEASED IT . . . SLUNG IT DOWN OUT AND FORWARD AND THEN QUICKLY BACK UP AND IN ON PLANE . . . NO HANGING ON . . . that club was RIPPING DOWN PLANE AND BACK UP PLANE. __________________ Aloha Mr. Hand Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand 12 piece bucket View Public Profile Send a private message to 12 piece bucket Find all posts by 12 piece bucket