LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Active pivot versus reactive pivot Thread: Active pivot versus reactive pivot View Single Post #67 05-20-2010, 10:37 AM 12 piece bucket Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 4,380 Originally Posted by Bartly Several times I have heard Doyle state or pull on your left hip as you come into your aiming point, left hip socket extension. Can you please explain the purpose of this. I have a feeling its about releasing the club after the hands pass the ball. At times I have the feeling of sliding to get to my aiming point,(hands past the left hip, uncocked) my head does not move. Trying to get the connection between the forward hip press move and left hip extention, when, where & why. Thanks Go stick your head on a wall or in a door jamb . . . bend at your hips I mean really bend. Find out where the hip sockets actually are. Once you got that lay a shaft or a dowel or something right on the sockets. Make your backstroke pivot sloooooow. Note what happens as your turn your hips and keep your head stable . . . On the backstroke generally you're going to feel the right hip joint "extend" and the left one "flex". Now do the backstroke again focus on your hip and right knee joint. Do the back stroke and DON'T allow your right knee to extend or your right hip socket to extend . . . pay attention to the difficulty or ease of keeping your head in place and notice the range of motion you have. Now do the opposite . . . extend the knee and the right hip socket . . . what happens? Which one is easier? Now do the same thing coming thru . . . . come down and pose impact . . . . you'll likely find/feel that your right hip socket is "flex" again to the level it was at address. Now as you slide your hips forward keeping your head on the wall . . . notice what your hip joints are doing . . . experiment with what allows your hips to go forward and turn the most paying attention to the hip sockets and left knee as well as your spine. Do the thru swing and maintain the flex in your left knee . . . what does the range of motion result in? Can you keep turning? What happens to your hip sockets? Allow it to straighten . . . what happens to the range of motion? Can you extend the hip socket more? Your limbs are a complicated apparatus . . . really focus on what they are doing . . . with regards to your pivot paying particular attention to the knees hips and spine. here's an interesting study for you . . . Does Doyle do what he suggests? Have a look at the position of his hips and the amount of extention in the left hip (both hips really)? Look at where his right butt cheek is . . . . LOOK AT THE CLUBFACE!!! Compared to Hogan . . . Who's extending the socket the most? Who's hips are turned the most? Who's hips are more forward? Who's left knee extends the fastest? Who's head is moving back to create axis tilt? Who's head steady and is getting axis tilt by moving the hips forward? Another observation . . . . People observe that Hogan "held the angle" more than anyone . . . YOU TELL ME WHO'S DOING THE HOLDING HERE? Frame #3 in Doyles deal was my first introduction to the Golfing Machine . . . I tried to get that . . . achieved it . . . it has been without question THE WORST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO MY GOLF GAME . . . if someone tries to get you to get that much trigger delay . . . run like you hear banjo music . . . it did something unseemly to my game . . . I still can't get it out of my system even thoug I know it's wrong. You face has to do sooooo much you can hit the golf ball anywhere and I MEAN ANYWHERE. compare Doyles frame #3 to the second pic of Hogan at a similar point in the stroke . . . if Doyle had taught Hogan to look like frame #3 . . . . he'd have never gotten outta the caddy yard. True DEATH MOVE. Notice how Doyles head is tilting back and his left arm gets all t-rex shrunk up . . . it has too . . . if he doesn't shrink up his radius the club is going to crash into the ground behind the ball. Doyle is not releasing any of the accumulators starting with #4 . . . he's getting to the ball by tilting his shoulders backwards . . . Accumulators RELEASE . . ACCUMULATORS RELEASE . . . see Hogan . . . . Hogan set a bunch of angle . . . and he RELEASED IT . . . somebody else is HOLDING ON . . . it's RELEASE 4-1-2-3 . . . not hold #4 hold #1 tilt back and flash #2 and flash #3. LOOK AT THE FACE HERE!!!! IT'S LOOKIN AT THE FREAKIN GROUND!!!!!! His supporters will say "Awww come in he was 70 years old and he hit that ball a little fat." UH NO SIR . . . he may be 70 but he was strong enough in his hands to hang on to #2 with the club parallel to the ground with his hands mid body . . . this is what HAS TO HAPPEN. BANE OF MY GOLFING EXISTENCE. Sorry to get on my soap box . . . BUT THIS AIN'T THE GOLFING MACHINE!!!! Don't buy it ever. __________________ Aloha Mr. Hand Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 05-20-2010 at 11:00 AM. 12 piece bucket View Public Profile Send a private message to 12 piece bucket Find all posts by 12 piece bucket