[HungryBear]

But isn't the TSP defined as a flat back turn?

No.

I meant flat back shoulder turn


Can't the TSP also be the elbow plane at impact?

No.

Depends on how far back and where the top "is"


Then there would be no shift?

And no Right Shoulder Support.


I can't control both the right shoulder on plane and the left shoulder "plane" so don't we take what we get Re: the left shoulder? Doesn't #4 "slide" down the left side before release?

No. No. and No.

Looking at mine that is what I do.

Isn't it just the "right" triangle that lays on the plane. (3 points- right shoulder, #3 pp, sweet spot- form triangle)?

#3 PP, Right Shoulder and the Sweet-Spot of the Clubhead.

Doesn't the left triangle roll or swivel to vertical to the plane through impact?

The Left Wrist should be Level and Vertical.
And the wrist fixes the flat side of the triangle??

Isn't this mainly a pivot thing? The game is played in front of the torso between the shoulders? Dont the hands practice this so they can direct the moving parts? And, Every time I experiment I have a whole new rhythm thing to get back to? I think my aiming point is not on any imperative line but on its own delivery line that is near the outside of my left toe? Does that sound right?[/quote]

You're on the Elbow Plane.

At impact, I believe so

Why would you pull the Club and #3 PP straight Down toward the ground from the Top of the Swing, when the Ball is Located on the Plane Line?


Why would you Shift Planes when you don't have to?

I don't. but because the left shoulder moves UP as the right goes DOWN the left wrist is in a level (cocked, level, uncocked) and vertical to the plane at impact.

I try not to. I think that is a optical illusion due to the right forearm pitched out ahead of the right shoulder as it chases down plane.


Is there same good example(s) of only TSP swingers/hitters?

Is there some good example(s) of only elbow plane swingers?

The broblem(s) is/are that:

#3 accumulator is less than adequate with pure TSP, If a swinger releases #4 before impact power package lag goes away, intentional plane shifts become an uncoordinated "gobbeltygook". Three imperatives- the ponderance of not only how to acomplish them but ALSO the consequences, both good and bad, of their succssful/uncessful execution.