[HungryBear]

Sorry about all the cut and paste O.B.

The scary part is that I think I understand some of it.

All the black is cut and past - hope I didn't mess-up your context badly!!

From the first edition:

Quote:

10-6-A. ELBOW The location of the Elbow during Impact is the reference point used for this Plane Angle. This alignment not only allows the Right Forearm to move On Plane through the Impact but also allows the torso to be postioned at righ angles to the Plane --which are the unexcelled alignments for Right Arm Power and Control.


Which to me implies there can be a range of Elbow Plane Angles.


From the sixth edition:

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10-6-0 GENERAL Basic Plane Angles are classified on the basis of reference points on which the Inclined Plane can be set. Five such settings are considered here – three fixed, one moving, one moveable – each named for its particular reference point. Remember the Right Forearm is not “On Plane” unless the Right Elbow also is still – or again – On Plane (2-F).

10-6-A ELBOW Where the Right Elbow touches the waist is the reference point used for this Plane Angle. It is the “flattest” normal Plane that will still allow the Right Forearm to be On Plane during Impact. This should produce a very flat Angle of Attack (2-B) with reduced Backspin and should be avoided for Short Shots unless it is also part of your Full Stroke Pattern. The Elbow Plane allows maximum #3 Accumulator requiring earlier Release per 6-N-0. This procedure is executed by the Right Forearm per 7-3 and 10-6-B and Elbow Location per 6-B-3-0-1.

Which seems to change to a fixed location for the Elbow Plane as I read it.

I think (my thinking) HK changed his frame of Ref. from defining EP at impact to EP at set-up

And from the sixth edition 7-23 paragraph 3. page 111. And the first edition , 7-23 paragraph 3 page 61:

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The Straight Line Path is a simpler procedure than the Angled Line Path. But the latter is very natural movement and has the advantage of the true Elbow Plane through Impact. The former can have a steeper-than-normal Elbow Plane compensated with a reaching-out of the arms and a shifting of the Left Hand Grip that places the Clubshaft in the Cup of the Hand instead of under the heel of the Hand, and the Right Hand Grip adjusted to correspond.

*Bold by me.
Again I think HK was saying you can have a EP while on TSP but you must zero accumulator #3 and adjust grip accordingly
In other words by latter day Homer definition is there one Elbow Plane?
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I must admit that I dont follow you in regard to Accumulator #2 and 3 and the Elbow Plane. Dont be alarmed there's a lot I dont follow. But all planes could have both coudnt they? In that paragraph from 7-23 Homer isnt saying that you must zero out #3 for the "higher" Elbow Planes.

That is my thinking- You MUST have an “elbow” plane to have #2 and #3

In regard to Plane Angle Variations and Power Package Delivery Paths, one of the notations Yoda made in my 6th edition was on the bottom of page 158 ,right under the pictures of Dianne demonstrating various Shifs. It reads " Relates to 10-23- B/C/D"

I will not dare speak for Yoda and he is likely near enough to answer the question but I will assume that the note was meant to tie the demonstrated plane shifts on 158 to the plane shifts of 10-23 “Angled” lines

The Bear