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Couples and VJ Sing looks to be very close. Particularly Couples. He just seems to aim his gyro and crank it.

And who knows back in the hickory age. I guess those shafts didn't respond very well to brute force drive loading.

K agreed but if my current thinking is correct about true Swinging meaning no Grip Rotation ....... Then it gets to be a pretty small group and not somehing you can just observe by looking at a super fluid motion like Jones or Couples or.... You'd have to see what they did with the face at fix, if they did fix.

But I could be wrong about Grip Rotation too.