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The downstroke subject is moving well beyond the Back-stroke question this thread is based on. Therefore, and also because I have learned over time that any perception of challenge to established dogma never has a good end. Perhaps, we can return to it at a different time in another, more appropriate thread.

HB

#3 The disk plane is not perpendicular to the axis and therefore the disk will appear to "wobble" on the axis as the disk and axis are rotated. This is the variation that exists for "flat" backstroke and "on plane" downstroke
HB

A challenge to "established dogma"? What the? That's a pretty insulting and kind of weird comment. Thanks. What'd I do but try to answer your question politely? We're talking about golf for frig sakes. Shoulder turns! Yeah I see the forces lined up against you. Total conspiracy.

Let me respond to the second quote above in another way then. The way I chose not to first time around.

You dont understand what Standard Shoulder Turn is obviously. The Right Shoulder , the Hands taxi driver during Startdown, seeks out the Plane Line as if it was going to hit the ball. Small the heck out of the ball. Its not a merely a fixed Shoulder/Spine arrangement. That'd be Pivot to Hands. The Hands are directing.


Ob

PS The answer to the original question lays in the downstroke, to my mind. .........It is not beyond the scope of this thread. Not at all.