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Mike, OB - thanks for your advice.

I know Homer's only referring to the True Swinger in my above quote from 7-2. Should have made that more clear in my question. I am actually thinking about the True Swinger, only. Should he use Grip rotation to get that degree of openness required by the selected Hinge Action and Club length (per 2-J-1)? Isn't that somewhat mixing Grip rotation with Plane Line rotation?

By definition the True Swinger uses , no I cant say uses .... sees cf ALONE square the club face. ie he has no control over the club face. Grip Rotation is therefor not available to him.

Or should he get the required amount of open Clubface by placing the ball further back? (But with Horizontal Hinging, which per 2-J-1 requires a more open Clubface for the longer clubs, that would mean playing the ball from further back with the longer clubs, which seems counterintuitive, no?)

Each club given built in hook face has its own unique straight away ball position. This is found through trial and error and takes into account the degree of clubface openness required for straight away initial ball flight. IMO.

Can a player who uses Plane Line rotation to produce fades and draws use Grip rotation to get the Impact alignments prescribed by 2-J-1 for the selected Hinge Action?

Yes. But only a manipulated Hands Swinger or Hitter would be able to do this.

And can a Hands Manipulated Swinger still use Plane Line Rotation to play fades and draws?

Yes absolutely.


Short version maybe this will be more clear: When you read 7-2 you have to understand that regardless of whether you are a True Swinger or Manipulated hands swinger or hitter the ball flight laws are the same. Divergence between clubhead path and club face angle creates curved flight . The true swinger can manipulate the path only . The manipualted hands swinger or hitter can manipulate the path and / or the face. Said another way in Homer speak , the manipulated Hands Swinger can manipulate the club HEAD and the club FACE. The True Swinger has no manual control over the club FACE. He sees the clubface come back to a ball played aft in the stance in a more open condition than does the manipulated hands swinger or hitter who employed Grip Rotation.

So the ball reaction for balls played back in the stance are different yes (given the implication to face angle inherent in Homers definitions of true vs manipulated swinging ) ..... but the ball flight laws are universal . No one can over ride the physics in play. Path vs Face equals divergence etc.