pics of wrist impact position--anti roll?

[bergsey]

This is the FEEL of ANGLED HINGING!!! Which is a MUST with your grip my friend from down-under. Check this quote out . . .

Can I have angled hinging and still hit a draw? as i mentioned earlier on i have pretty much never faded the ball, straight or slight draw is my "good" shot. The odd fade i have hit (unintentionally) has been with the very short irons e.g. PW

I thought that angled hinging = fade, although perhaps my angled hinge might be closer to a horizontal one?

Not sure whether it makes much difference but others have mentioned my clubface looking very "shut" at the top, not sure if this is a result of the grip or some manipulation along the way.... i'll try and borrow a camera at some point and put a sequence up...

[12 piece bucket]

Can I have angled hinging and still hit a draw? as i mentioned earlier on i have pretty much never faded the ball, straight or slight draw is my "good" shot. The odd fade i have hit (unintentionally) has been with the very short irons e.g. PW

I thought that angled hinging = fade, although perhaps my angled hinge might be closer to a horizontal one?

Not sure whether it makes much difference but others have mentioned my clubface looking very "shut" at the top, not sure if this is a result of the grip or some manipulation along the way.... i'll try and borrow a camera at some point and put a sequence up...

B . . . You can hit a draw or a cut with ANY Hinge Action . . .

2-J-1 IMPACT ALIGNMENTS . . .Except with a Cut Shot procedure, the clubface is properly soled behind the ball when the leadingedge is slightly "open." The longer the shot the more Open the Clubface.

The Clubface must be exactly square to the Line of Flight ONLY at the point of Separation. So if the EXECUTION of the Stroke is geometrically correct, a square face at pre-impact can result in a Line of Flight to the left, or "inside" of the intended Line - a Pulled Shot. Or, if this error of alignment is great enough, it will result in a Hooked Shot.

and

7-2 GRIP TYPES . . . For the “True” Hitter, Moving the Ball back (Hook alignment) or forward (Slice alignment) – always with the Clubface aligned to the Target Line per 2-J-1 – gives straightaway initial direction (2-B). Opening the Clubface (Slice Grip) or Closing the Clubface (Hook Grip) at your normal Impact Fix, produces Pushed Slices and Pulled Hooks and so require a compensating Target Line adjustment to make it square to the changed Clubface alignment.

For the “True” Swinger, “Opening” the Plane Line (10-5-D) until it is square to the Clubface alignment at the new “Aft” location, will produce a “Fade.” With the Ball moved Forward, “Closing” the Plane Line (10-5-E) square to the Clubface alignment at the new location, will produce a “Draw.” The Curve of the their paths, after the straightaway initial direction, will be proportional to the divergence of the Plane and Target Lines. Herein, “Path” terms (Ball Path etc.) refer to total Ball behavior, whether or not it remains straightaway. “Line” terms (“Target Line” etc.) refer to the straightaway direction of Aim

[bergsey]

Went and had another lesson earlier in the week and got my grip checked. My coach suggested weakening a bit but leaving the thumb on the right hand side of the shaft.

From this...


To this.....


Everything since then is either a push slice or almost shank !

Do i need to conciously try and close the face now as opposed to my previous "strong grip"?

[gmbtempe]

Woo!!!!! This is fantastic!!!! As you can see pictures don't tell no lies!!!! If your LEFT HAND IS TURNED ON THE GRIP you DO NOT WANT TO ROLL!!!

With your Turned grip to hit the wall square you COCK AND UNCOCK ONLY. But with the vertical grip YOU HAVE TO ROLL TO HIT THE WALL SQUARE.

Thanks for taking these pics man! The Golfing Machine should come with a video. Very nice!



YES!!! YES!!!! YES!!!!

This is the FEEL of ANGLED HINGING!!! Which is a MUST with your grip my friend from down-under. Check this quote out . . .

,“Basic Hinging” has the following characteristics of appearance and feel. Between the “Full Roll” of Horizontal Hinging and the “No Roll” of Vertical Hinging, Angled Hinging takes on a “Half Roll” motion. While Horizontal Hinging retains the “Feel” of a “Roll”, Angled Hinging takes on a “No Roll” Feel and Vertical Hinging is executed as a “Reverse Roll”.

I really wish the pictures in this post still showed up!

So, breaking this down into simple terms, if you weaken your left hand grip by turning it to the left the more you will have to roll your hands into a horizontal hinge. If this is done correctly it produces more power but timing is a trade off? If you have a stronger left hand grip then it will require a angled hinge, or if you are like me you get it shut then it promotes a hold off vertical hinge?

[EdZ]

What this is telling me is that if I have my current grip + left wrist rotation then everythings going left into the bushes?

Only if you are executing hinge action as a swivel.

Hinge action is in effect from impact to separation. With the stronger lead hand grip, your 'finish swivel' happens AFTER the ball is gone. That said, you can still execute a horizontal hinge (closing only), with the stronger grip, you just wouldn't want to execute a 'release swivel' - then you'd be headed left.

Horizontal hinge, to me, feels like a very 'level' left hand frisbee toss. Important not to confuse that feel with the 'roll' feel of the release and finish swivels, which is easy to do if you are using a weaker grip, it tends to feel like one long, SMOOTH roll.

This is a confusing point in TGM definitions of hinge and swivel, which Yoda has helped clarify for me.