Could one not also "trace" the extension of the Straight Line Delivery Path of the HANDS with the #3 PP from the Top to the Ball or Aiming Point?
I suppose you could look at it that way. However, the Delivery Path is best conceived as a Line of Thrust, not as a Line to Trace. And, as you have stated, that Thrust is always directly toward the Ball or, alternatively, the Aiming Point, even as the Hands move in a curve.
Keep these identities distinct: Delivery Lines refer to the Delivery of the Clubhead into Impact. Delivery Paths refer to the Delivery of the Hands into Impact.
Correctly executed, both produce identical Impact Alignments and Line of Compression through the Ball.
... the Delivery Path is best conceived as a Line of Thrust, not as a Line to Trace.
Could you explain the differences between the two? I think I have a kind of vague intuition regarding those differences, but I think it would be helpful to hear it put into words.
The next video in the Collin Neeman Lesson Series talks of Lag Pressure -- the Pressure to be sustained in the Hands as they make their way Down Plane...
The next video in the Collin Neeman Lesson Series talks of Lag Pressure -- the Pressure to be sustained in the Hands as they make their way Down Plane...
Could you explain the differences between the two? I think I have a kind of vague intuition regarding those differences, but I think it would be helpful to hear it put into words.
At the Top, the Clubhead Lag (as sensed in the #3 Pressure Point, the right forefinger), is the "stone" you are going to throw, i.e., propel, toward Impact. That Throw is accomplished as a Straight Line Effort toward the Aiming Point (usually the Ball). This is the Delivery Path of the Hands (and Thrust).
As the Hands take their straight-line Path Down Plane toward the Ball, the #3 Pressure Point and Forearm seek to Trace the straight-line Base Line of the Inclined Plane. This is the Delivery Line of the Clubhead.
These are interdependent efforts, and you should practice them separately. Monitor one or the other but not both at the same time. Both are Imperative, but of the two, the Delivery Path rules.
Under the control of the subconscious Computer, they ultimately combine to produce with maximum precision the On Plane orbit of the Sweetspot through Release and Impact.
At the Top, the Clubhead Lag (as sensed in the #3 Pressure Point, the right forefinger), is the "stone" you are going to throw, i.e., propel, toward Impact. That Throw is accomplished as a Straight Line Effort toward the Aiming Point (usually the Ball). This is the Delivery Path of the Hands (and Thrust).
As the Hands take their straight-line Path Down Plane toward the Ball, the #3 Pressure Point and Forearm seek to Trace the straight-line Base Line of the Inclined Plane. This is the Delivery Line of the Clubhead.
These are interdependent efforts, and you should practice them separately. Monitor one or the other but not both at the same time. Both are Imperative, but of the two, the Delivery Path rules.
Under the control of the subconscious Computer, they ultimately combine to produce with maximum precision the On Plane orbit of the Sweetspot through Release and Impact.
In the Brian Gay first clip on the ranging hitting his driver, near the end- you can see him driving his hands to aiming point in an extented practice motion before address. Been studying tonight- hahahah
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I suppose you could look at it that way. However, the Delivery Path is best conceived as a Line of Thrust, not as a Line to Trace. And, as you have stated, that Thrust is always directly toward the Ball or, alternatively, the Aiming Point, even as the Hands move in a curve.
Keep these identities distinct: Delivery Lines refer to the Delivery of the Clubhead into Impact. Delivery Paths refer to the Delivery of the Hands into Impact.
Correctly executed, both produce identical Impact Alignments and Line of Compression through the Ball.
Boss,
This here's from the 4th . . . It ain't exactly "tracing" . . . And this didn't make the cut. 6-E-2. He speaks to this too in the audio.
This Aiming Point procedure seems more easily acquired if introduced as a Feel. At the top of the Backstroke - even at the End (10-21-C) - mentally construct a line from the Hands to the Aiming Point. Let a careful Downstroke Pivot move the Hands precisely along this line - they will Feel as though they remain at the top of the stroke. Don't question that Feel - just sustain (monitor) it per 5-0, all ready for Release at the preselected Release Point (10-19, 10-24). Drive the Hands (Clubhead Feel 7-19) down the line (2-N) until both arms are straight - i.e., NO QUITTING. That procedure merely utilizes a long used method for drawing freehand straight lines between two points. Using the Clubshaft as the pencil is an effective equivalent.
Excellent thread - I think part of the general confusion in this area is that the 'illusions' run strong here.
Most important to keep in mind that you are always looking at both the hands (delivery paths) and clubhead (delivery lines) from ABOVE plane.
Add to that the general confusion in the discussion of 'plane' - that of the pressure points/CF (delivery paths) and that of the clubshaft/head (delivery lines). They are very closely related, but are not the same. When in doubt, monitor the hands.
Bucket - aiming point is a delivery path concept, and therefore is most closely related to 'the plane' of the pressure point #1 travel. Thanks for the quote from the 4th, it is unfortunate that it was removed from later versions.
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