Planning to buy a new driver. Uncertain as to whether my excellent clubmaker, who is in fact a swinger. can accurately relate to what will make this particular hitter happy. After shortening my shaft a bit, weight needs to be added to get my swingweight back up to d4. My clubmaker thinks 207 grams should be my maximum clubhead weight and the rest of the weight should go in the hosel. My theory is that hitters, with their shorter more explosive swings, might be able to efficiently handle heavier clubhead weights? Any hitters with experience with shorter shafts and heavier heads care to share?
Hitters or swingers should determine what feels best for them and produces the best launch angle and spin rate. Just because you are a hitter does not mean that you necessarily need heavier or stiffer.
Another misconception is swingweight. You can make any club any swingweight you want. In fact, many hitters I have fit prefer the weight in the handle (balanced certified) or the shaft more than in the head. Because hitters should be more deliberate in startdown pushing the primary lever, heavier sometimes is better, but not necessarily in the head.
Also, when you put weight in the hosel you change the center of gravity dramatically. In fact I have never heard of weighting the hosel as a good thing.
I can help you find a qualified fitter in your area who can help YOU find the right club for YOU. Let me know where you live.
Hitters or swingers should determine what feels best for them and produces the best launch angle and spin rate. Just because you are a hitter does not mean that you necessarily need heavier or stiffer.
Another misconception is swingweight. You can make any club any swingweight you want. In fact, many hitters I have fit prefer the weight in the handle (balanced certified) or the shaft more than in the head. Because hitters should be more deliberate in startdown pushing the primary lever, heavier sometimes is better, but not necessarily in the head.
Also, when you put weight in the hosel you change the center of gravity dramatically. In fact I have never heard of weighting the hosel as a good thing.
I can help you find a qualified fitter in your area who can help YOU find the right club for YOU. Let me know where you live.
For a Hitter, then, would a (dare I say) stiff butt (cut it out) shaft to drive against be better than a soft butt with a stiff tipped shaft? (everyone go to their room- right now).
Golfsmith was the first to add weight to the hosel that I know of as a cheap way to offer head weight changes. Wishon does the same thing and knows his stuff.
Last edited by 6bmike : 03-09-2007 at 09:09 PM.
Reason: spelling
Wow!! I love the precision with which Jeff Hull worked on his golf game. (drilling to keep your head perfectly still, impressed me alot.) Another thing I loved was how you got out of results and focused on process by just dealing with what you could control, i.e. hitting down to low point.
The driver I want to have built is a 525 GRT made by Wishon Golf. They offer a hosel weight of up to 9 grams. (It represents a way that a club maker can get to the swingweight he desires by adding weight cleanly and out of sight.) Because the weight is above the clubhead, I assume it affects the moi of the club to a slightly lesser extent than it would if the weight was on the rear sole of the clubhead.
My plan is to have Wishon hand pick the lightest driver clubhead they have, (Maybe 195 instead of 202). By cutting my shaft down to 44.5 additional weight would need to be replaced. To get to my clubmaker's 207 target from 195, I would have 12 grams of lead tape weight to increase my driver's MOI by a few hundred points and raise the ball flight modestly. The rest of the weight would be dropped into the hosel. You said it was what feels good, and frankly my current driver has a 209 gram clubhead which feels fine. Maybe I should add additional lead tape and see when it stops feeling good? What is the heaviest driver clubhead you have built Jeff, which felt good to the golfer?
Another misconception is swingweight. You can make any club any swingweight you want. In fact, many hitters I have fit prefer the weight in the handle (balanced certified) or the shaft more than in the head. Because hitters should be more deliberate in startdown pushing the primary lever, heavier sometimes is better, but not necessarily in the head.
It took me a little time to put your plan to work. But when I read your post a second time, I figured it out. I chose a heavier shaft to reduce the need for hosel weight. That moved a little extra weight higher in the shaft nearer to where it acts as a "primary lever". Also the chosen shaft, Pershing has an abnormally high balance point to begin with. .