Pace, Pressure, Rhythm, Flails, Delivery Paths, Acceleration and Pulley Sizes

[Bagger Lance]

I think Bucket gets a check in his column for this'un.

What new math brings you to that conclusion???

Mathew is the second really smart dude to agree with me!

Now you are trying to call your buddy MikeO into the debate???
News flash McMurphy, two lunatics in the cuckoos nest do not make a sane person.

Bambam - why are we allowing Bucket into the TGM Advanced section of this forum???

My $.02 worth. For me I think tempo is the speed of the pivot that I want to make for the particular shot I want to hit, this is the same as Pace. Rhythm is the ability to maintain that Tempo (Pace). If I do it right it = a good shot, if not, bad shot.

Rick - I think that is the most common view of tempo and rhythm, but Golfing Machine rhythm is defined differently. I use to think the same thing and it was very confusing trying to understand TGM with that definition. If you are into the book or trying to learn from TGM instruction, you can save yourself a lot of confusion by understanding how Homer defined rhythm.

So far, I think everyone is on the same page regarding TGM rhythm (but I'm having doubts now that Bucket gets it) and the endless belt.

If I'm wrong about anything in my posts I expect to be called out. I left my badge in the wiring closet when I jumped into the ring with Bucket. Bucket is getting wupped regarding Golfing Machine Pace, so he's calling on his lunatic buddy to bring duct tape and bailing wire into the ring.

Bring in your buddy MikeO, but he must agree to have his head shaved if your understanding of pace is wrong. I know MikeO understands rhythm, but if you don't then not only is your head getting shaved, you have to eat cow with pace sauce.

By the way McMurphy, what is TGM Rhythm?

[12 piece bucket]

What new math brings you to that conclusion???

Mathew is the second really smart dude to agree with me!

Now you are trying to call your buddy MikeO into the debate???
News flash McMurphy, two lunatics in the cuckoos nest do not make a sane person.

Bambam - why are we allowing Bucket into the TGM Advanced section of this forum???



Rick - I think that is the most common view of tempo and rhythm, but Golfing Machine rhythm is defined differently. I use to think the same thing and it was very confusing trying to understand TGM with that definition. If you are into the book or trying to learn from TGM instruction, you can save yourself a lot of confusion by understanding how Homer defined rhythm.

So far, I think everyone is on the same page regarding TGM rhythm (but I'm having doubts now that Bucket gets it) and the endless belt.

If I'm wrong about anything in my posts I expect to be called out. I left my badge in the wiring closet when I jumped into the ring with Bucket. Bucket is getting wupped regarding Golfing Machine Pace, so he's calling on his lunatic buddy to bring duct tape and bailing wire into the ring.

Bring in your buddy MikeO, but he must agree to have his head shaved if your understanding of pace is wrong. I know MikeO understands rhythm, but if you don't then not only is your head getting shaved, you have to eat cow with pace sauce.

By the way McMurphy, what is TGM Rhythm?

Ooooooooo . . . I LOVE IT WHEN YOU GET THAT FIRE IN THE EYES . . . SEXY!!!!


I got TGM Rhythm . . . I been explaining it in the past 3 responses. Rhythm and Pace are different . . . but I contend related . . . it is simply the club keeps its in-line relationship with the left arm regardless of grip while cocking uncocking turning and rolling . . .

but the question is . . . PACE.

[Bagger Lance]

Ooooooooo . . . I LOVE IT WHEN YOU GET THAT FIRE IN THE EYES . . . SEXY!!!!

I got TGM Rhythm . . . I been explaining it in the past 3 responses. Rhythm and Pace are different . . . but I contend related

Nahhh, I'm not wound up. Just giving you a hard time to draw out some clarity in definition. You need someone besides MikeO to mess with you.
I agree with you they are different and integral to each other.
Iron sharpens Iron buddy and I have some rust on the blade.

To add a few comments on Rhythm. There are a whole are a bunch of people who need to understand these concepts because they are awesome TGM fundamentals. Alot of this is in 2-G and 7-18.

There is a Rhythm of left arm/club RPM independent of lever extension and a Rhythm of Hinge Action (clubface roll).

Rhythm is holding the left arm and clubshaft at the same RPM throughout the stroke while the flail allows the overtaking of components at an even rate. Can we call this "constant hand speed"?

In terms of hinge action - roll is imparted by the turning torso and/or orbiting arms 2-G. and is facilitated or produced by the extension of the right elbow. Hinge Action Rhythm is the motion (degree and rate of roll) of the clubface based on one of the three possible planes; Horizontal, Angled, or Vertical. The motion is executed on an inclined plane so the motion (rhythm) is either full roll horizontal, half roll angled, or no roll vertical. That is the rhythm of hinging and it is an overtaking component.

Why can't we just say "Tempo"?
Why did Homer use the term Rhythm instead of Tempo?

Tempo is the overall speed of a pattern.
Rhythm is group of timing intervals. The intervals may be even or uneven.
Tempo can consist of multiple rhythmic patterns.

What about Pace?
Pace is a measure of speed.

I'm not a musician, but I'm certain there are direct analogies for Pace, Rhythm and Tempo.

[12 piece bucket]

Nahhh, I'm not wound up. Just giving you a hard time to draw out some clarity in definition. You need someone besides MikeO to mess with you.

Rhythm is holding the left arm and clubshaft at the same RPM throughout the stroke while the flail allows the overtaking of components at an even rate. Can we call this "constant hand speed"?


Why can't we just say "Tempo"?
Why did Homer use the term Rhythm instead of Tempo?

Tempo is the overall speed of a pattern.
Rhythm is group of timing intervals. The intervals may be even or uneven.
Tempo can consist of multiple rhythmic patterns.

What about Pace?
Pace is a measure of speed.

I'm not a musician, but I'm certain there are direct analogies for Pace, Rhythm and Tempo.

I knowed you was just fooling around . . . and me and Mikey REALLY DO HATE each other . . . ever since the time he was pullin' wings off of butterflies and then stickin' 'em in his nose.

I think Mr. K equated pace with hand speed . . . . could be wrong.

And as far as constant speed . . . it could be constant fast or constant slow right? And I think that one works better for big pulleys and one works better for small ones.

I bet you are cute when you get angry