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Old 07-08-2007, 10:35 PM
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Amazing stuff!

I have never thought about developing a shot that never misses across your stance line. I assume if you fade it there's a 'line' there too? How do you work on that deal?

This has to be the best thread on the site.

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Bucket,

It might seem strange but when I faded it, I had two lines, one for driver and one for irons. I wanted the driver to end up right of my toe line. I had three shots: heel cut (low and a little shorter with more curve), straight shot, and the right rocket. I did not know when they were coming, but it did not matter. I aimed just inside the left rough and hit it hard (think Duval). A bad one would be just in the left rough or right rough. With the irons, I wanted a pull cut to straight. I wanted to know that it would not go too much right, not cross target line. It is a very easy way to play. Eliminate half the course. I took some years off and it all changed.

How to work on that deal. Claude Harmon (from BH's The Pro) used to drop his considerable money clip on the range in front of his boys and say, "If I hit one left of that flag you can split the money." The boys never got any. That's practicing with a purpose and under real pressue.

I'll let you tell me how to hit a draw that never crosses your feet.

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Old 07-08-2007, 11:46 PM
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Bucket,

It might seem strange but when I faded it, I had two lines, one for driver and one for irons. I wanted the driver to end up right of my toe line. I had three shots: heel cut (low and a little shorter with more curve), straight shot, and the right rocket. I did not know when they were coming, but it did not matter. I aimed just inside the left rough and hit it hard (think Duval). A bad one would be just in the left rough or right rough. With the irons, I wanted a pull cut to straight. I wanted to know that it would not go too much right, not cross target line. It is a very easy way to play. Eliminate half the course. I took some years off and it all changed.

How to work on that deal. Claude Harmon (from BH's The Pro) used to drop his considerable money clip on the range in front of his boys and say, "If I hit one left of that flag you can split the money." The boys never got any. That's practicing with a purpose and under real pressue.

I'll let you tell me how to hit a draw that never crosses your feet.

HB
BH as in B=Ben H=Hogan???

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Old 07-09-2007, 12:00 AM
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BH as in B=Ben H=Hogan???

Angled Hinge it?

Dude just when I think I can't get no better . . . you just make it better.
Bucket,

BH--just a typo.

You're the hinge action guy, so I'll defer. I'm rifling through the files here to catch up. I think in terms of face and path.

HB
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:36 AM
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Bucket,

BH--just a typo.

You're the hinge action guy, so I'll defer. I'm rifling through the files here to catch up. I think in terms of face and path.

HB
Ball spins because of divergence right? So path slightly across target line and clubface square to target line at separation?

You may have much more detailed info on this . . . but I read that the face has much more weight with regards to the direction equation than the path like 75 to 80%? I'm still sorting all that out.
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:21 AM
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The formula for success is building a strong swing and understanding the cause and effect. Then hitting lots of good shots and few poor ones. Then letting the poor ones go. You have to accept that you will hit some of those, say equal to your handicap, and move on.

Short game is clearly a factor as well. The difference in level of damage a poor shot causes is related to the score. Making a good chip and holing the putt changes the whole dynamic. The more confidant the player is on his ability to score, the less pressure he puts on his swing.


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Old 07-09-2007, 09:37 AM
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:20 PM
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Ball spins because of divergence right? So path slightly across target line and clubface square to target line at separation?

You may have much more detailed info on this . . . but I read that the face has much more weight with regards to the direction equation than the path like 75 to 80%? I'm still sorting all that out.
Bucket,

I read alot here about face square at separation. I agree that a straight shot might be the optimal one in terms of the physics. I like a little curve in the shot, both for my eye and to give margin for error.

My understanding is of the condition is the face aligned between target line and path in equal amounts would result in a shot that curves to the target. For example, path 4 degrees right and face 2 degrees open. I think in terms of having the face open enough and not swinging too far right so the ball does not over-hook. I don't mind sending the ball a little right.

HB
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:02 PM
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BH as in B=Ben H=Hogan???

Angled Hinge it?

Dude just when I think I can't get no better . . . you just make it better.
Bucket,

Missed that one. BH=Butch Harmon. He wrote the book about his dad. I recommend it.

HB
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:35 PM
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i sware i havent followed a thread 6times a day in along time. This one is well worth it....

Henny, seems to me that there a fewer and fewer natural different swings out there on tour, you know the days of chichi, nicklaus, palmer and trevino had very different styles and the characters that came with it it seems...

its looking alot like cookycutter swings these days, is that a fad or fact of knowledge and general teaching? i'd like you view on this...maybe there still are a few characters you know of that im not thinking of besides freaky furyk of course!

just looks alot the same these days....is that good?
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