Are there any explicit instructions on this action in TGM? I reviewed chapter 7 and the index and came up empty. My specific question is whether the right hip is cleared by the right forearm pickup or is an independent move done simultaneuosly with the rfp. 7-17 refers to the heels being pulled off the ground, presumably by the pivot. Is the right hip pulled or does it move independently?
The pivot uses both the Shoulders and the Hips. Each move independently from each other in a coordinated, timed, sequence.
This is where the Hands train the pivot so there is no ‘roundhousing’ of the Hands around the right hip. The pivot should allow the Hands to go directly to the ball or aiming point. You can pre-set the right hip at address or use a delayed Hip action on the up stroke. You need to start the downstroke with a hip action that lead the shoulders, then the arms and Hands along its Delivery Path.
Some say the right hip is pulled by the rotation of the left hip. Others say fire the right hip- a thrust or a pop at impact. The right hip cannot remain still if the left is turning and the right hip can still fire as it turns. A Swinger may feel more pull and a Hitter will feel the thrust or push.
As for the feet. Homer didn’t want you to lift the right foot as an action on to itself. The right foot should lift because of the stroke’s momentum forward and only as much as that allows. There is no independent right foot lifting.
This is where the Hands train the pivot so there is no ‘roundhousing’ of the Hands around the right hip. The pivot should allow the Hands to go directly to the ball or aiming point. You can pre-set the right hip at address or use a delayed Hip action on the up stroke. You need to start the downstroke with a hip action that lead the shoulders, then the arms and Hands along its Delivery Path.
You just turn it the amount you want . . . so basically you are making your backstroke hip turn before you actually make the backstroke. You can turn it the full amount or how much you like. Doing this actually shortens your arm swing and get the hip out of the way so you don't have to go around it in your 3 dimensional backstroke (back up and in) . . . just like the downstroke . . . get it out of the way so you can go (down and out).
As bucket posted, you can turn the hip as if you are sitting on your back right pocket. That leaves the Stance Line parallel to the Target and Plane Line.
You can also:
Set up in a closed stance to your target line, 10-5-E (??). This set up is still a variation of a delayed Hip Action and allows for a clear path for the right elbow and put the Right Shoulder On Plane. Can be for Swinger or Hitter. The Plane line will be slightly closed and tracing it will prevent the right elbow to roundhouse the right hip. This has to be worked out on the lesson tee.
Practice Start Down waggles- a hip action- and you will have a well trained pivot motion. A well trained hip action as part of the pivot will never have the Hands veer off its Delivery Path.
Homer had a bit of a phobia about the right hip being in the way but it doesn’t take much too disturb the Delivery of the Hands and the Right Elbow needs open space.
I once saw an old video of Mr. Kelley teaching a few guys... and they were working on this pre-turned right hip, on the backswing. Tom Tomasello used to teach this sometimes, as well a Peter Croker. They would kind of blend it in there, where it was not as obvious. With Mr. Kelley's guys on this film, you could clearly see this.
The book does, of course, give options on the backswing, for the hips... Slide Turn, Delayed Hip Action, etc..
I once saw an old video of Mr. Kelley teaching a few guys... and they were working on this pre-turned right hip, on the backswing. Tom Tomasello used to teach this sometimes, as well a Peter Croker. They would kind of blend it in there, where it was not as obvious. With Mr. Kelley's guys on this film, you could clearly see this.
The book does, of course, give options on the backswing, for the hips... Slide Turn, Delayed Hip Action, etc..
Dear Lagster,
As with Homer's "hands controlled pivot", it is a correct "pushing" from the pressure points in the hands that controls the "hip action" and causes the right arm to clear the right hip without interference on the way down and also controls the hands path on the backswing so that the pivot action does not "pull' the club too much off path to the inside.
I find the "hands controlled pivot more effective to manage for most golfers.
As with Homer's "hands controlled pivot", it is a correct "pushing" from the pressure points in the hands that controls the "hip action" and causes the right arm to clear the right hip without interference on the way down and also controls the hands path on the backswing so that the pivot action does not "pull' the club too much off path to the inside.
I find the "hands controlled pivot more effective to manage for most golfers.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Peter
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Good to hear from you Peter!
Pushing... is usually associated with Hitting in TGM, as you know. Would you say your teaching is a Hitting Procedure? I attended one of your seminars in Orlando in around 1993 or '94. I did very well with it for a while, but started to get too sweepish eventually.
...This man can really strike the ball well... if any of you don't already know. I believe he finished 2nd or so in the Australian P.G.A. one year.
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