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07-18-2007, 08:15 AM
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Why has the PGA ignored TGM for the last 30 years? Imagine the masses learning the TRIAD. I'm a member, and after learning some of the machine, it's embarassing the road that the PGA has taken.
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07-18-2007, 09:37 AM
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There is a lot of "history" involved in answering your question. I know that more than one of the old hands here could provide the facts more accurately than I could. Anyone game?
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07-18-2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by elygc1
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Why has the PGA ignored TGM for the last 30 years? Imagine the masses learning the TRIAD. I'm a member, and after learning some of the machine, it's embarassing the road that the PGA has taken.
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I agree, so much instruction makes me cringe.
Back in the eighties, Dr Gary Wiren came within an eyelash of making TGM the official instruction of the PGA. But things happen. A different history evolved.
Back in the eighties, Dr Gary Wiren came within an eyelash of making TGM the official instruction of the PGA. But things happen. A different history evolved because of it. "Seems to be, Seems as if, Seems logical" replaced fact. Feel is SOOOOO important in TGM - just know why you feel that.
In the last few years TGM has advanced deeper into golf instruction, perhaps unknowing to the instructor. Big name instructors throw around TGM terms more and more. Lynn plays a big role in this, as did all those early TGM forums. There are a lot of LBG/TGM guys out there working everyday in the principles of Homer Kelley.
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07-18-2007, 03:33 PM
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It is my understanding...
...that Gary Wiren, after meeting with Ben Doyle and listening to him explain what the book was all about, came to the conclusion that TGM was going to be "too much" for the average PGA professional to understand, absorb, apply and then teach. What a shame that this kind of attitude was so pervasive back then. TGM, back then was considered even more radical than it is considered today.
If I am wrong about any of the above, I hope someone will correct me on this. But, I believe this to be generally the truth.
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07-18-2007, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dss
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...that Gary Wiren, after meeting with Ben Doyle and listening to him explain what the book was all about, came to the conclusion that TGM was going to be "too much" for the average PGA professional to understand, absorb, apply and then teach. What a shame that this kind of attitude was so pervasive back then. TGM, back then was considered even more radical than it is considered today.
If I am wrong about any of the above, I hope someone will correct me on this. But, I believe this to be generally the truth.
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Wiren's actions were far more ironic than this account reveals. |
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07-18-2007, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dss
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...that Gary Wiren, after meeting with Ben Doyle and listening to him explain what the book was all about, came to the conclusion that TGM was going to be "too much" for the average PGA professional to understand, absorb, apply and then teach. What a shame that this kind of attitude was so pervasive back then. TGM, back then was considered even more radical than it is considered today.
If I am wrong about any of the above, I hope someone will correct me on this. But, I believe this to be generally the truth.
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In defense of Wiren perhaps he was correct. The internet video digital technology is what allowed CEvans, Yoda to clear the TGM fog and teach it correctly to golfers. |
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07-19-2007, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mb6606
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In defense of Wiren perhaps he was correct. The internet video digital technology is what allowed CEvans, Yoda to clear the TGM fog and teach it correctly to golfers.
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Ever see/read the PGA teaching manual Wiren put out? |
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07-19-2007, 08:21 AM
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The problem of "simple and hurried" over "truthful and deliberate" is hardly unique to golf instruction - you can see it all over the business world.
People naturally pay attention to the FEW who, for one reason or another, have success with "simple and hurried." No one wants to seem to acknowledge the MANY, MANY more who FAIL with "simple and hurried."
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07-19-2007, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mb6606
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In defense of Wiren perhaps he was correct. The internet video digital technology is what allowed CEvans, Yoda to clear the TGM fog and teach it correctly to golfers.
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Golfdom was not ready for TGM
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TGM was not ready to be taught. Few could teach it 25 yrs ago.
Today, TGM has matured and been unlocked for many more. |
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07-19-2007, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bmike
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Golfdom was not ready for TGM
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TGM was not ready to be taught. Few could teach it 25 yrs ago.
Today, TGM has matured and been unlocked for many more.
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Nice post Mike, and right to the point.
Efnef is also correct. Mr. Kelley was not a member of the PGA and was "an outsider looking in".
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