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08-08-2007, 06:14 PM
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I hear you my friend. I am going through a rut like yourself too, anything that resembles gold will be turned to mud or worse e.g. I would be in the middle of a fairway after hitting a good drive, I would then proceed to make a 6 from it. No two swings are the same and no two results the same.
Time to put away the clubs me thinks.................
Alex
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08-08-2007, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by alex_chung
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I hear you my friend. I am going through a rut like yourself too, anything that resembles gold will be turned to mud or worse e.g. I would be in the middle of a fairway after hitting a good drive, I would then proceed to make a 6 from it. No two swings are the same and no two results the same.
Time to put away the clubs me thinks.................
Alex
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The thought has crossed my mind Alex but I refuse to be beaten even though I am bloodied and bowed at the moment.
It is the Tour Caliber shots that are keeping me going and there really are enough of them in a round. Shame they have to be nullified by the other crap.
Tell you what; I cannot for the life of me recreate some of the horrendous mis-cues that I make. They are many and varied but I just cannot repeat them at will. Go figure.
Ever try deliberately hitting a shank - nigh on impossible. Ever deliberately Top the ball successfully - nigh on impossible. Ever hit one 45* left of the heel of a Wood deliberately - nigh on impossible. Yet I can do all of these without trying - nay, whilst trying very hard NOT to do them. AND ANOTHER THING, why is it that whenever I miss the fairway, or hit a bad shot that I always, without fail, lose the ball or have NOTHING to hit should I find it. I'm taking a 2 shot hit for every mistake.
On the other hand, today I hit a 4i 220 yards and over a 50 foot high Oak tree into the mouth of the green on the way to a bogey; 1st putt lipped out and 'aint that always the same! Trouble was, I preceded that shot with a drive 70 yds "fore right" and almost over the next fairway before fatting a five wood which just dribbled back to my own fairway.
Ho, hum. I will just try again tomorrow and hope I get closer to the unofficial 81 (par 73) than the official 100 of today.
Sorry for the rant Alex, and the rest of you out there who have the misfortune to be reading this tripe, but I have now got it of my chest.
UNTIL THE NEXT TIME.
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08-08-2007, 08:26 PM
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Yes,
"....no where does man go so naked as when he is dressed for a game of golf."
Was asked to join some up coming golfing stars on the back nine the other day. Humbly I accepted and proceeded to play par with a bit of scrambling in there as I haven't played too much. After four holes I had worked my way up to having the honors on the tee. It was so funny because I remember the mind and thought shift I went into before I hit my tee shot straight right into the woods, hit the 4-iron too low that caught a small wet grassy mound, stopping my ball dead. Punched out hitting a branch. Had 185 in which was pushed right, chipped on (barely) and two putted....needless to say....I went straight to the back of the bus!
Not to say your mind set had shifted to mine, which was one of a lot less humility and clarity than I started with!!! Regardless, it was very interesting to go back in my mind and realize that shift of attitude and attention. The snowball effect was amazing and it took two holes to "clear the Mechanism". Never got the tee box back but hit some fine shots. Mary had a little lamb... 
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08-09-2007, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by spike
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Yes,
"....no where does man go so naked as when he is dressed for a game of golf."
Was asked to join some up coming golfing stars on the back nine the other day. Humbly I accepted and proceeded to play par with a bit of scrambling in there as I haven't played too much. After four holes I had worked my way up to having the honors on the tee. It was so funny because I remember the mind and thought shift I went into before I hit my tee shot straight right into the woods, hit the 4-iron too low that caught a small wet grassy mound, stopping my ball dead. Punched out hitting a branch. Had 185 in which was pushed right, chipped on (barely) and two putted....needless to say....I went straight to the back of the bus!
Not to say your mind set had shifted to mine, which was one of a lot less humility and clarity than I started with!!! Regardless, it was very interesting to go back in my mind and realize that shift of attitude and attention. The snowball effect was amazing and it took two holes to "clear the Mechanism". Never got the tee box back but hit some fine shots. Mary had a little lamb...
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Thanks for the gentle reminder to keep the mind clear and keyed in Spike.
However, next time I see that fricken Lamb it will be smothered in mint sauce and surrounded by roast potatoes. 
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08-09-2007, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Burner
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The thought has crossed my mind Alex but I refuse to be beaten even though I am bloodied and bowed at the moment.
It is the Tour Caliber shots that are keeping me going and there really are enough of them in a round. Shame they have to be nullified by the other crap.
Tell you what; I cannot for the life of me recreate some of the horrendous mis-cues that I make. They are many and varied but I just cannot repeat them at will. Go figure.
Ever try deliberately hitting a shank - nigh on impossible. Ever deliberately Top the ball successfully - nigh on impossible. Ever hit one 45* left of the heel of a Wood deliberately - nigh on impossible. Yet I can do all of these without trying - nay, whilst trying very hard NOT to do them. AND ANOTHER THING, why is it that whenever I miss the fairway, or hit a bad shot that I always, without fail, lose the ball or have NOTHING to hit should I find it. I'm taking a 2 shot hit for every mistake.
On the other hand, today I hit a 4i 220 yards and over a 50 foot high Oak tree into the mouth of the green on the way to a bogey; 1st putt lipped out and 'aint that always the same! Trouble was, I preceded that shot with a drive 70 yds "fore right" and almost over the next fairway before fatting a five wood which just dribbled back to my own fairway.
Ho, hum. I will just try again tomorrow and hope I get closer to the unofficial 81 (par 73) than the official 100 of today.
Sorry for the rant Alex, and the rest of you out there who have the misfortune to be reading this tripe, but I have now got it of my chest.
UNTIL THE NEXT TIME.
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You been watching me play??? That is my game at the moment and like you I cannot recreate any of the horrendous miscues that seem to happen. That fatted 3 wood nope....the hosel rocket nope....the toe hit that looks like a shank nope......its very annoying and like you I will not give up on this.
Maybe its time to head to the swamp to complete my training......you still interested in this?
Alex
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08-09-2007, 02:56 PM
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Yoda,
Great comments on setup. You need preparation. What I like to do (on the range) is hit shots purposefully off the toe (a toe shank), off the heel (a reverse shank, and when done well watch your front foot!) and to top it some 15 yards straight down the fairway. Now you know where your clubhead is! It,s fun unless you are paying for each ball!
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08-09-2007, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by alex_chung
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Maybe its time to head to the swamp to complete my training......you still interested in this?
Alex
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Yup. I'll PM you.
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08-09-2007, 10:20 PM
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Burner,
Re-start this battle knowing that you will come out on top. Spend some time thinking about great rounds past.
No more playing scrambles, they will only help you prepare for rehitting after an O.B. shot. Here's to hoping no one on this forum hits a putt out of bounds.
My personal guess is you are bending the plane line a bit on some shots (maybe even consistently.) On the great shots you may either be compensating properly or just swinging better. My feeling is that nothing helps the hinge action like drawing a straight plane line. My recommendation with never seeing your swing is a bunch of downswing waggles. Also, moving toward acquired motion length backswings might be a good idea. When the timing of the swing is not happening better to make the swing simpler (less motion).
I'd wish you luck, but I know you'll pull through.
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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08-10-2007, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mrodock
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Burner,
Re-start this battle knowing that you will come out on top. Spend some time thinking about great rounds past.
No more playing scrambles, they will only help you prepare for rehitting after an O.B. shot. Here's to hoping no one on this forum hits a putt out of bounds.
My personal guess is you are bending the plane line a bit on some shots (maybe even consistently.) On the great shots you may either be compensating properly or just swinging better. My feeling is that nothing helps the hinge action like drawing a straight plane line. My recommendation with never seeing your swing is a bunch of downswing waggles. Also, moving toward acquired motion length backswings might be a good idea. When the timing of the swing is not happening better to make the swing simpler (less motion).
I'd wish you luck, but I know you'll pull through.
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Thanks mate. Some good stuff there which may not be far from the truth.
I practise in front of my patio windows in order to get a look at plane lines and such but nothing beats the reality of a proper swing for revealing the truth.
I DO hit the ball better from an acquired motion position which, as is the case with most of us, gets to be the top of my swing anyway.
The mental side of things really needs work as I can, as my tag line suggests, be my own worst enemy. I am often heard to be referring to the curse that has been visited upon me by a person or persons unknown.
Sad really for a grown man to get into this state over a game BUT golf is much more important than that.
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