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Old 09-08-2007, 03:54 AM
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Playing the way the clubs were designed...
Due to the fact that a golf club has a lie angle, nessesitates that the club must be used on a particular plane during impact or alter the clubface to compensate for that deviation.

Whilst it would be nice to stay on this plane during the entire motion and is extremely advisable on chips/putts your going to have real troubles attempting a 'zero shift' too much past basic motion.

The 'ideal' would be to shift from the top of the backstroke with the club on the turned shoulder plane - to the plane the club design nessesitates.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:20 AM
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Due to the fact that a golf club has a lie angle, nessesitates that the club must be used on a particular plane during impact or alter the clubface to compensate for that deviation.

Whilst it would be nice to stay on this plane during the entire motion and is extremely advisable on chips/putts your going to have real troubles attempting a 'zero shift' too much past basic motion.

The 'ideal' would be to shift from the top of the backstroke with the club on the turned shoulder plane - to the plane the club design nessesitates.
Or have the club designed to match your impact alignments?
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:23 AM
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Or have the club designed to match your impact alignments?
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:31 AM
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Congratulations on beating me to 500.
Thanks Drew,
To be honest I hadn't noticed!-Not been aware of the "score" since Bucket made the Hall of Fame
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:01 PM
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Steep/Flat/Middle-ground
Reasonable points by all!

However, as much as Mr. Woods and others work on their backswings... there are obvious advantages to some over others.

So far we have... Steep is usually better with Hitting, and Flat with Swinging, although exceptions like Couples, Furyk, Nicklaus...Swingers, and Palmer(probably a Hitter) are out there.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:51 PM
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Thanks Drew,
To be honest I hadn't noticed!-Not been aware of the "score" since Bucket made the Hall of Fame
That was kinda like somebody farting in the Hall right?
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:05 PM
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Or have the club designed to match your impact alignments?
neil, do you mean adjust the lie angle ?

All golf clubs are designed for impact......I think.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:21 AM
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Plane Line, Plane Angle and Plane Angle Variations are located in Zone 3 for a reason: Ball Control, and Direction. As long as you are on Plane, Steep or Flat, it has little to do with Power (Zone 2 requirements). The important point is just to be On Plane.
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Due to the fact that a golf club has a lie angle, nessesitates that the club must be used on a particular plane during impact or alter the clubface to compensate for that deviation.

Whilst it would be nice to stay on this plane during the entire motion and is extremely advisable on chips/putts your going to have real troubles attempting a 'zero shift' too much past basic motion.

The 'ideal' would be to shift from the top of the backstroke with the club on the turned shoulder plane - to the plane the club design nessesitates.
I could be way off on this . . . but I think Mr. Kelley said that the sole and heel of the club was rounded inorder to accomodate some difference in Plane Angle. Somebody holla?
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:03 AM
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I could be way off on this . . . but I think Mr. Kelley said that the sole and heel of the club was rounded inorder to accomodate some difference in Plane Angle. Somebody holla?
Whilst rounding the sole and heel may allow 'slight allowances' in the plane angle, it does nothing to change the fact that any change in plane angle will consequently tilt and thus alter the clubface plane. You can however compensate with clubface positioning yet I have serious doubts that it advisable for people to practice these alignments at fix... x degrees toe deep and the score lines x degrees closed to the target at seperation....what happened to precision alignments - this isn't MORAD...

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