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Old 09-16-2007, 08:52 PM
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Illusion vs. reality. Perception vs. Fact.

TGM cuts through Illusions and explains Fact.

Does one have a feeling of throwing the club down the fairway? Yes.
Does throwing the club down the fairway produce a golf swing? No.

The Throw–Out of the clubhead by CF used by Swingers will straighten the arms after Impact (8-11), producing that “toss down the fairway” feeling.
But…
The Geometry of the Circle teaches us that the clubhead travels DOWN through the ball (Impact) and reaches Low Point with the right arm still bent before it straightens with the Left Arm for the FIRST time.

The problem with the tossing the club down to the target drill is that it is so easy to do without hitting down. In fact too often it produces scooping.

It can be done within the Geometry of the Circle but you first have to KNOW WHY, then HOW.
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:05 PM
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The problem with the tossing the club down to the target drill is that it is so easy to do without hitting down. In fact too often it produces scooping.

It can be done within the Geometry of the Circle but you first have to KNOW WHY, then HOW.
Basically, I'm just trying to keep improving on my ability to bring the clubhead to low point. I'm wondering if the 'throw the ball at the ground with my right hand' feel is making me take too-deep divots.

I think I'm getting shallower divots when I use the feelling of throwing the club to the target (but my low point may even be further past the ball using this swing thought. ?!?
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:30 PM
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Basically, I'm just trying to keep improving on my ability to bring the clubhead to low point. I'm wondering if the 'throw the ball at the ground with my right hand' feel is making me take too-deep divots.

I think I'm getting shallower divots when I use the feelling of throwing the club to the target (but my low point may even be further past the ball using this swing thought. ?!?
There is a fine line here.

Through Impact, Thrust -- Muscular or Centrifugal -- is always directed Straight Line and Down Plane. Down and Out to Low Point (1-L-14) toward the Aiming Point (6-E-2). This puts the Hands -- directly or indirectly -- in their Impact Hand Location (7-8 ). But...

This Lag Pressure Point Pressure -- #3 Pressure Point (Right Forefinger) -- is never an out-an-out Right Arm Throwaway from the Top and into the ground. Instead...

In Pivot Strokes, the Loading from the Top is best done via the Left Side Pull, i.e., the Body Pulling the Arms and the Arms pulling the Club. Then, with a strong sense of Finish Swivel, the Left Arm Flying Wedge is accelerated through Impact and Follow-Through.

The Lagging Right Side picks this up as Clubhead Lag.

As it should.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:19 PM
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Basically, I'm just trying to keep improving on my ability to bring the clubhead to low point. I'm wondering if the 'throw the ball at the ground with my right hand' feel is making me take too-deep divots.

I think I'm getting shallower divots when I use the feelling of throwing the club to the target (but my low point may even be further past the ball using this swing thought. ?!?
For me, it was a huge wake up call and game changing moment when I learned to drive my hands, or butt of the club, down and out to low point. The faster you can get you mind out of the clubhead and into your hands the better off you will be. And the better player you will become. As long as you maintain extensor action you can't get too steep, just try and drive it to China.
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:27 PM
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Basically, I'm just trying to keep improving on my ability to bring the clubhead to low point. I'm wondering if the 'throw the ball at the ground with my right hand' feel is making me take too-deep divots.

I think I'm getting shallower divots when I use the feelling of throwing the club to the target (but my low point may even be further past the ball using this swing thought. ?!?
I just opened my copy of Shoemaker’s book.

The before pictures all showed a flip/chicken wing/scooper/rhythm broken golf swing. A typical left hand bent after impact hacker position. Unprincipled. There was a ball in the equation. It had to be struck and the best information they had was to use the clubhead.

The after pictures all showed wonderful “impact” positions with a flat left or arched left wrist and a pivot responding to the driving right arm. But I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that none on an incline golf plane. You can see most aren’t from the front view and I bet “Richard” who looked the best, that from the back view, is not on plane to impact the ball. There was NO ball in the equation. There are not dealing with the Low Point the ball is on.

I can’t see a flipper suddenly arching their left wrist On Plane- even without the ball- without further instruction. They are ‘Hammer Throwing’ - off plane - feeling the weight of the club pull away from their new center.

What I do like about the ‘club toss’ is how it helps with the feel of the pivot responding to the arms after impact. Allowing the right side to continue through the stroke. You can have the greatest golf stroke in the club-tossing world but if its plane is above the ball- what good is it?

I would work on Acc#3 Transfer, inline left arm Rhythm (Horizontal or Angled Hinge Action) and extending both arms to straight in the follow through. You can let go of the club (safely) after that if you like. IMHO a G.O.L.F.er’s club would stick in the ground a few yards ahead of him if let go at both arms straight.

To reach Low Point, I would work on understanding the Geometry of the Circle with Impact Fix. NOT all divots all the same. No one is advocating deep cuts of turf. Just understand that Low Point is just ahead of ball position and the club is striking down to it and then starts up and in. If LP is several inches beyond the ball and divots are several inches deeper, the ball and or stroke center needs adjustment.

The ball throw to LP drill is Right forearm control- practice with dowels for the correct Right Forearm Angle of Approach procedure.

It’s great to feel the arms freely swing around the body but the Hands need to control all motion. Educated hands is the real freedom.
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