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Old 01-14-2008, 11:40 PM
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Nice!!!
Not intended for me but I enjoyed your detailed post nonetheless. Plenty of chicken on that bone! Speaking of which...where is Bucket?
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Daryl,

As Okie said.... plenty of meat to chew on there, and good food for thought. I'm incubating on it now.

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The question to answered is do you think the Sequenced Release is the PROCEDURE . . . or a DESCRIPTION of the Procedure? AND . . . . you better make sure your chosen Procedure matches your Grip Type. The entire book is written for the most part under the assumption that you are employing a 10-2-B grip . . .so . . . are you?
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:32 PM
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10-2-B Yes, and I agree with the statement that HK mostly referred to 10-2-B.

10-18-A and 10-18-B employ 10-2-B.

10-18-B “… It is restricted to true centrifugal force swings because its reverse rotation during Release-return to the Flat and Vertical Left Wrist-inhibits Clubhead Throwaway.” I think that the word “restricted” should be replaced with “mandatory”. It’s only my opinion.

Then, 7-3 would be completely comprehensible, “For Swinging the Right Forearm should be precisely in-line with-and directly opposed to-the motion of the On Plane Loading Action of the Secondary Lever Assembly (the Clubshaft) and this alignment maintained through impact.” Homer Kelly was a genius and no sentence in the book sums the differences between Hitting and Swinging as eloquently as this.

For the Swinger, this can only occur with 10-18-B. If Swingers continue to use 10-18-A then the concept of Loading the Secondary Lever and how it is completely and dramatically different (in feel and appearance) than Loading the Primary Lever cannot ever be known. You cannot load the Secondary Lever with 10-18-A. That’s what the statement in 7-3 is about and the reason “THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM” is included in 7-3.

Learn this, then Sequenced and Simultaneous Releases are not only understood, but can be executed at will, and perfectly On Plane. Every time.
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another consideration is . . . the more trigger delay then the more the release becomes "like" simultaneous . . .
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I don’t think so.
Greater delay results in greater Clubhead velocity and downward force. This needs compensation. Reduced #3 Accumulator Angle for shorter Swivel time. The feel of the Swivel is magnified by the downward force and Roll is accentuated because of ratio of the “feel” of the longer and delayed Downstroke. For me, it feels like I’m pounding the Ball into the ground with Roll. Huge thump. My arms are almost parallel to the ground before I finish swivel. Ball flight soars upward though. Nice to watch but guaranteed to take an extra ten yards off into the wind.
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
I don’t think so.
Greater delay results in greater Clubhead velocity and downward force. This needs compensation. Reduced #3 Accumulator Angle for shorter Swivel time. The feel of the Swivel is magnified by the downward force and Roll is accentuated because of ratio of the “feel” of the longer and delayed Downstroke. For me, it feels like I’m pounding the Ball into the ground with Roll. Huge thump. My arms are almost parallel to the ground before I finish swivel. Ball flight soars upward though. Nice to watch but guaranteed to take an extra ten yards off into the wind.
Definitely becomes "Simultaneous" with Max Trigger Delay . . . think about it . . . if you are delaying the Uncocking and the Rolling well into the Downstroke these release motions HAVE TO happen in a more "simultaneous" fashion to be able to hit the ball meeting the selected Fix Alignments . . . that is why Max Trigger Delay isn't necessarily your friend.

Think of Sergio or Hogan vs. a Tom Watson . . . with Sergio the amount of delay requires that the Accumulators get in line QUICKLY Simultaneously almost instantly . . . that would be both #2 and #3 . . . if Sergio held it deep and just did UNCOCKING and no roll the ball goes everywhere . . . .that is why you may want to think about 10-2-D grips with Max Trigger Swings . . . with that grip type you CAN'T Roll . . . Just Uncock.
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10-2-B Yes, and I agree with the statement that HK mostly referred to 10-2-B.

10-18-A and 10-18-B employ 10-2-B.

10-18-B “… It is restricted to true centrifugal force swings because its reverse rotation during Release-return to the Flat and Vertical Left Wrist-inhibits Clubhead Throwaway.” I think that the word “restricted” should be replaced with “mandatory”. It’s only my opinion.

Then, 7-3 would be completely comprehensible, “For Swinging the Right Forearm should be precisely in-line with-and directly opposed to-the motion of the On Plane Loading Action of the Secondary Lever Assembly (the Clubshaft) and this alignment maintained through impact.” Homer Kelly was a genius and no sentence in the book sums the differences between Hitting and Swinging as eloquently as this.

For the Swinger, this can only occur with 10-18-B. If Swingers continue to use 10-18-A then the concept of Loading the Secondary Lever and how it is completely and dramatically different (in feel and appearance) than Loading the Primary Lever cannot ever be known. You cannot load the Secondary Lever with 10-18-A. That’s what the statement in 7-3 is about and the reason “THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM” is included in 7-3.

Learn this, then Sequenced and Simultaneous Releases are not only understood, but can be executed at will, and perfectly On Plane. Every time.
Daryl

Is this quoted from the 6th edition. Can you please leaborate on the second last paragraph please.

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Old 03-02-2008, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Quintin van der Berg View Post
Daryl

Is this quoted from the 6th edition. Can you please leaborate on the second last paragraph please.

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I should have said that 10-18-B more securely Loads the #3 Pressure Point.

Homer believes that the Left Wrist should become Flat after Startup and continue its Flatness till at least Both Arms Straight for both Hitters and Swingers. That’s my interpretation. It would be less confusing if he said that the Left Arm Wedge, the Left Arm and Clubshaft must not get out-of-Line. But he didn’t say that. He truly wants the Wedges established as soon as possible and maintained throughout the Swing.
Elbow Locations:
The Elbow Locations differ because the differences in Left Wrist Action Startup create different Elbow Locations.
Loading the Primary Lever:
The Hitter Loads the Primary Lever when he goes to Top. That means that the direction of Pressure on the #3 PP is against the fleshy part of the right forefinger and the Aft side of the Shaft. If a Hitter is at the Top Position and does nothing else but applies Pressure against the Shaft with this Fleshy Part of the Right Forefinger, then the Primary Lever will be forced off Plane only OUT in front of him. So the Hitter should not use Right Arm Thrust until the Right Elbow returns to Plane so that the Thrust is Down, Forward and Out. It’s important for the Hitter to Load the Primary Lever and maintain Extensor Action because CF is not going to be available to stiffen it. If the Hitter uses Left Wrist Action 10-18-C and Fans the Right Forearm at Startup, then the Right Elbow will go a little backwards at Startup and will be at his side during Release and his Right Elbow will be located for an On Plane Push/Thrust of the Primary Lever through Impact and the Left and Right Arm Flying Wedges relationship Geometry will be created.
Loading the Secondary Lever:
The Swinger should Load the Secondary Lever, the Clubshaft, and Homers solution is to take the Swing to the End Position. That position will create #3 PP pressure against the Top Side of the Shaft and against the Top side of the first Knuckle of the Right Forefinger if you follow his recommendation. Using Standard Left Wrist Action 10-18-A, when Fanning the Right Forearm at Startup leaves the Elbow stationary (in front of you) until Extensor Action raises the Arms and Club. This Action keeps the Right Elbow pointing more downward. This is where it really gets interesting. 10-2-B will have a Visual Bend in the Left Wrist IF we prevent the Right Wrist Bend from exceeding its Impact Degree of Bend. Then, the Geometry of the Right Arm Flying Wedge will be at Right Angles to Clubshaft with a Lower Right Elbow and the Left Arm and Clubshaft will keep its in-Line relationship.
Focus:
Hitters Focus more attention on the Left Arm Flying Wedge and should maintain the Wedge throughout the Swing. Swingers Focus more attention on the Right Arm Flying Wedge and maintain it throughout the Swing and will regain the Visually Flat Left Wrist at Impact because of Swivel. HK wants both Hitters and Swingers to focus on Both Wedges. The Million Dollar question is “Can you have a Left Arm Wedge if your Left Wrist is Visually Bent?”. I can’t answer that.
Comparison: End and Top
TOP Position for a Hitter is an alignment that doesn’t allow the Pressure to change from the aft Side of the Shaft against the Fleshy Part of the Right Forefinger which becomes simplified by using Left Wrist Action 10-18-C. The Hitter needs the Visually Flat Left Wrist because he needs to Create and maintain undisturbed Left Arm Wedge impact geometries so it is better for Him to Start his backswing at Impact Fix Hand location and maintain the Geometry throughout the Swing. Except for the Hitter, we should get it out of our heads that the Visually Flat Left Wrist at Impact means a Visually Flat Left Wrist during the Backswing.
End is a Geometrical Alignment of a Loading Action. End can be anywhere along the Backstroke Path. Using a 10-18-B and Fanning Startup will place the Pressure against the Top Side of the Shaft and Top of the Right forefinger knuckle for any Length Backstroke. If you apply extra #3 PP pressure in this geometry ( the Pressure being against the Top of the Shaft and Top of the Knuckle) then stopping the backswing at any location will show that the Secondary Lever, Clubshaft, will move On Plane, not only in the Out-direction like with the Hitter. This is important for the swinger because Pivot Thrust must not misalign the Clubshaft for the eventual Takeover of CF.
Solutions:
For a Swinger, in Order to maintain the Impact Degree of Bend of the Right Wrist and maintain a visually Flat Left Wrist throughout the Swing, then use Grip 10-2-E, VTU, with 10-18-C. Now you have a Visually Flat Left Wrist, it maintains the Correct Degree of Right Wrist Bend, the Flying Wedges have geometrical relationship, it allows the Right Elbow to return to a Pitch Elbow Release Position and all with a Straight Line Delivery Path.
My Component Selection Solution, 10-2-B, or better 10-2-C, with 10-18-B, Doesn’t disturb the Right Forearm Wedge and prevents the Right Wrist from exceeding its Impact Degree of Bend with a Pitch Elbow Position. Using a Pitch Elbow allows Less Right Wrist Bend at Impact than Push Elbow. Also, 10-18-B has less Slippage with the #3 PP and the #3 PP Pressure will return to the Aft Side of the Shaft at Impact during the Roll portion of a Sequenced Release.
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Great Stuff....
I know its old now (going back to March), but, Damn, that was a good read. Thanks guys!
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